monocle_layton said:
Pagan said:
Oh you talk like the people in 2005 when Erdogan just started to divide Turkey. You will see how america will look like in 5 years. Like i said i am seeing the same arguments what erdogan did and the same reactions from both sides. Very sad. Such a nice nation.
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Your inability to differentiate both Turkey and the United States is concerning (to say the least).
Turkey’s government was corrupted in a manner which gave Erdogan powers capable of dismantling the democratic roots Turkey began to grow for some time. In the United States we’ve always seen division and issues, but never have we seen a president dismantle a system intended to keep a country free.
youre talking about the Middle East after all. Instead of just dismissing my statement as ‘one of those people’, realizing twelve years is a lot of time and that the US is completely different should address your criticism. Keep in mind 2002 was over a decade ago - we may not even have trump for half a decade
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Ok i will tell you now what Erdogan did and you can compare it to the current situation in the staates.
1.) He demonized the institutions inside turkey and accused them of Organizing a plot against him. This Institution was the turkish military. He said there was a secret group called ergenekon. He jailed all of them.
2.) He called the media which was not on his side "part of the ergenekon and the Barons (elites)!"
3.) He said the deep state is behind everything and that the deep state people are traitors. First it was the deep state than the freemasons than the illuminatis. This with the masons and illuminati was more in the tvs he owned. Every day a so called documantion about the deep state, the media and the masons was shown.
4.) He digged a huge ditch and divided the country so much that one side HATED the other side. This didnt happened in one Night but in years.
5.) As deeper and longer the ditch was/is as more his base mutated to a radical base. He needed that ditch because that was the only way to send his base to kill or Blackmail the other side.
6.) Religious leaders in turkey said that allah has choosen him to lead the country (like the evangelican leaders in the staates)
7.) Channels close to erdogan didnt showed any facts. 0 facts. Everything they told were made up things. Nothing was ever prooved. Before one thing was investigated the next thing happened.
8.) When there were no enemies left he turned into is base and try to find old mates who started with him in the beginning and said that they are also part of the united staates.
9.) No enemies left in his base and in turkey. So he started to Search for enemies in the United staates and israel.
Number 8 and 9 will be future things which will happen in the usa. Even if some points didnt happened today they will even if trump will be impeached. That ditch will not heal.