I played it for like 10 hours then stopped caring. It felt like an open world game that wasn't really open. Like it had these huge beautiful expanses but nothing to do in them outside of the typical go here use Witcher sense until you have to kill something

The OP is so bad, it hurts me physically.

Seriously, if you're going to make a bunch of claims, 90% of which are objectively false (and/or you simply being obtuse), at least expand upon them to the point that you're actually formulating an argument.

"This, that, and the other is bad! NO NO NO NO!!!!" isn't the basis of a worthwhile discussion. You're not "hoping to open a conversation." You just wanted to rant about a popular game, deservedly considered a masterpiece, because you were bored, and had nothing better to do. Maybe the game didn't do anything for you, that's fine, nothing is all inclusive, everybody doesn't enjoy the same things.......but don't go running around spouting off a bunch of ignorant statements like they mean anything.

You know there's literally videos of those same characters fucking each other's brains out, some fairly high quality so why would anybody buy them to see those boobs for 5 seconds? Not sure how the game is edgy.

Also disagree on the writing, it's fairly solid and many of the side quest feel meaningful for those characters involved. I will agree that the combat is sluggish and awkward.

If you can, get all 3 imo.
But yeah nothing wrong with starting with Horizon Zero Dawn.

In the end game when you get whirlwind the combat becomes a form of art. Very fluid and you start to see the designers visions.

I have over 300 hours on the witcher 3 and I found it boring at first and it got me so mad how I would die and the  no auto save would make me repeat shit. but I learned and learned. Its a modern masterpiece.

I'm amused to see so many people not realizing that you can't just spam a bunch of buttons and expect Geralt to do them all. Combat has animations for each swing/maneuver and each animation must be completed before you can start the next. That's why there is "lag". The combat actually requires you to use some level of timing to chain swings/dodges.

It's your opinion in the end, it's just not for you
I found it to be entertaining, rich & beautiful, It was a pleasant surprise for someone who didn't like the first two games, the third was a giant leap forward and it still stands as one of my best gaming experience this generation

I disagree with damn near everything you just said. Controls are the only thing I would tweak but they're far from unplayable.

I agree about TW2, I loved TW1 more than that...But TW3 is by far the best game and one of my top 3 ever games and RPGs. You definitely won't get a picture of the scope of the game until you finished the first 3-5 hours or so. Give it a chance, and play it on hard or better deathmarch difficulty.

It's so much better than TW2 that it's kind of unbelieveable how they could do that in such a short amount of time.