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yvanjean on 25 January 2018
RolStoppable said:
yvanjean said:

Xbox 360 Sales: 1.17; 6.8; 7.8; 10.9; 10.9; 13.25; 13.88; 10.68; 6.2m
Xbox One Sales: 3.07; 7.9; 8.6; 8.37; ~8.5m........   

There has never been a hardware update like Xbox one X and PS4 Pro .... 

Sales were expected to be higher this year and now they just made the Game pass announcement which is only going to help Microsoft sales. 

Sure, hardware updates are new, but even the PS4 as a much healthier platform than the XB1 could increase its sales by only ~3m in the year after the PS4 Pro launch. The XB1X, which retails for $100 more than the PS4 Pro, would have to lead to ~5m of additional sales year over year. I mean, it can't be ruled that the XB1 finally manages 10m in a calendar year, but 13m is a different ballpark.

You cant compare the XB1 to Sony this generation. PS4 is the market leader and was selling like hotcakes regardless of which consoles. The announcement of Xbox one X has been hurting XB1 sales since 2016, hence why XB1 did worst in 2016 compare to 2015, 2016 the system should of been selling at a lower price point. 

Xbox in 2017 sold roughly 8.5 million in a year of uncertainty and waiting for Xbox one X. 

I think it's safe to say that XB1 should reach 10m sales this year. I expect Q1 2018 to be massive for XB1 with the sales boost from PUBG and the release of Sea of Thieves in March. 

We will know soon enough when we see January numbers:

XB1 highest January - 335k
XB1 highest February - 448k
XB1 highest March - 490k

Xb1 Jan 9th 2016 - 75k
Xb1 Jan 16th 2016 - 64k
XB1 Jan 23rd 2016- 60.8k
Xb1 Jan 30th 2016 - 71.2k




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LivingMetal on 25 January 2018

This is where "All Microsoft Game Studios Titles to be Added to Xbox Game Pass on Release Day" comes into play.



LivingMetal on 25 January 2018
foodfather said:
Everone knows its not as popular as the 360. Is there going to be one of these threads every month then?

As long as this is a sales site and numbers are reported...



Nogamez on 25 January 2018

Kinect help push xbox 369.sales dramatically aswell



zorg1000 on 25 January 2018
yvanjean said:
RolStoppable said:

Sure, hardware updates are new, but even the PS4 as a much healthier platform than the XB1 could increase its sales by only ~3m in the year after the PS4 Pro launch. The XB1X, which retails for $100 more than the PS4 Pro, would have to lead to ~5m of additional sales year over year. I mean, it can't be ruled that the XB1 finally manages 10m in a calendar year, but 13m is a different ballpark.

You cant compare the XB1 to Sony this generation. PS4 is the market leader and was selling like hotcakes regardless of which consoles. The announcement of Xbox one X has been hurting XB1 sales since 2016, hence why XB1 did worst in 2016 compare to 2015, 2016 the system should of been selling at a lower price point. 

Xbox in 2017 sold roughly 8.5 million in a year of uncertainty and waiting for Xbox one X. 

I think it's safe to say that XB1 should reach 10m sales this year. I expect Q1 2018 to be massive for XB1 with the sales boost from PUBG and the release of Sea of Thieves in March. 

We will know soon enough when we see January numbers:

XB1 highest January - 335k
XB1 highest February - 448k
XB1 highest March - 490k

Xb1 Jan 9th 2016 - 75k
Xb1 Jan 16th 2016 - 64k
XB1 Jan 23rd 2016- 60.8k
Xb1 Jan 30th 2016 - 71.2k

2017 was down YOY according to NPD and since US is by far XBO strongest market there really isnt any reason to believe its up in the rest of the world.

This site most likely has 2017 sales overtracked.



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Jigsawx1 on 25 January 2018
jason1637 said:

So that means the XB1 was tracking ahead of the 360 in 2016. That means XB1 sales by the end of 2016 were more than 28m. Someone earlier said that the XBO by the end of 2009 was 37m so XBO should be around 35-36m by the end of last year.

This means that vgc is mostly accurate at the moment.



Jigsawx1 on 25 January 2018
CGI-Quality said:
yvanjean said:

You cant compare the XB1 to Sony this generation. PS4 is the market leader and was selling like hotcakes regardless of which consoles. The announcement of Xbox one X has been hurting XB1 sales since 2016, hence why XB1 did worst in 2016 compare to 2015, 2016 the system should of been selling at a lower price point. 

Xbox in 2017 sold roughly 8.5 million in a year of uncertainty and waiting for Xbox one X. 

I think it's safe to say that XB1 should reach 10m sales this year. I expect Q1 2018 to be massive for XB1 with the sales boost from PUBG and the release of Sea of Thieves in March. 

We will know soon enough when we see January numbers:

XB1 highest January - 335k
XB1 highest February - 448k
XB1 highest March - 490k

Xb1 Jan 9th 2016 - 75k
Xb1 Jan 16th 2016 - 64k
XB1 Jan 23rd 2016- 60.8k
Xb1 Jan 30th 2016 - 71.2k

I don't. Sea of Thieves will do well enough, I suspect, but I don't see any massive uptick for PUBG happening. If that were going to have any real impact, people would be buying the S model in droves - beginning with January. Sure, we don't know how things look for this month yet, but if Amazon is anything to follow (and it is), Xbox hasn't changed much.

Then you're expected the X1 to be up 1.5m consoles this year? Again, I don't. It would take something pretty major for that to happen (and I mean major - a HUGE system seller of sorts). It's not going to happen.

Why not? there are coming great exclusives and all 3rds on the prettiest peace of hardware ever created.

And mario or halo were also no system seller before they came out. So we will see how SoT or the other exclusves will help.



yvanjean on 25 January 2018
CGI-Quality said:
yvanjean said:

You cant compare the XB1 to Sony this generation. PS4 is the market leader and was selling like hotcakes regardless of which consoles. The announcement of Xbox one X has been hurting XB1 sales since 2016, hence why XB1 did worst in 2016 compare to 2015, 2016 the system should of been selling at a lower price point. 

Xbox in 2017 sold roughly 8.5 million in a year of uncertainty and waiting for Xbox one X. 

I think it's safe to say that XB1 should reach 10m sales this year. I expect Q1 2018 to be massive for XB1 with the sales boost from PUBG and the release of Sea of Thieves in March. 

We will know soon enough when we see January numbers:

XB1 highest January - 335k
XB1 highest February - 448k
XB1 highest March - 490k

Xb1 Jan 9th 2016 - 75k
Xb1 Jan 16th 2016 - 64k
XB1 Jan 23rd 2016- 60.8k
Xb1 Jan 30th 2016 - 71.2k

I don't. Sea of Thieves will do well enough, I suspect, but I don't see any massive uptick for PUBG happening. If that were going to have any real impact, people would be buying the S model in droves - beginning with January. Sure, we don't know how things look for this month yet, but if Amazon is anything to follow (and it is), Xbox hasn't changed much.

Then you're expected the X1 to be up 1.5m consoles this year? Again, I don't. It would take something pretty major for that to happen (and I mean major - a HUGE system seller of sorts). It's not going to happen.

I expect much greater # then 1.5M  consoles increase compare to 2017. 

Check out the Sea of Thieves Beta, combine with Game pass news and PUBG is a gaming trend setter. It's already at 4 million players on Xbox one.  

 https://www.polygon.com/2018/1/25/16932186/pubg-xbox-loot-crates-free-battle-points-4-million-players



yvanjean on 25 January 2018
CGI-Quality said:
yvanjean said:

I expect much greater # then 1.5M  consoles increase compare to 2017. 

Check out the Sea of Thieves Beta, combine with Game pass news and PUBG is a gaming trend setter. It's already at 4 million players on Xbox one.  

 https://www.polygon.com/2018/1/25/16932186/pubg-xbox-loot-crates-free-battle-points-4-million-players

4 million players on PUBG is significant, but what has it done for Xbox hardware? Unless we're going to start ignoring Amazon, I've not seen a sudden surge in Xbox consoles sold.

Why are you mentioning Amazon .... they don't show sales numbers. 

PS4 offer 4 version of their consoles compared to Xbox 6+ version of the Xbox one consoles. 

Beside we're not talking about Xbox one outselling PS4 but outselling Prior year Xbox one Sales. 



yvanjean on 25 January 2018
CGI-Quality said:
yvanjean said:

Why are you mentioning Amazon .... they don't show sales numbers. 

PS4 offer 4 version of their consoles compared to Xbox compared to 6+ version of the Xbox one consoles. 

Beside we're not talking about Xbox one outselling PS4 but outselling Prior year Xbox one Sales. 

Who does show sales numbers for Xbox? All we have to go on is Amazon US positions. This isn't new.

As for PS4 - I've not made a single comparison to it. I'm talking about Xbox One 2018 vs 2017 (since that's what you were talking about). You expect a 1.5m uptick and I don't see it happening.

Amazon doesn't show sales numbers. How do you know if Amazon consoles sales are up in January compare to last year??? Amazon only show best seller. 

Microsoft also release a new bundle: Xbox One S 500GB Console - 3 Month Live and Game Pass Starter Bundle. That mean they have 8 console bundle vs PS4 4 console bundle.