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Aziz Ansari Is Guilty. Of Not Being a Mind Reader - NYT

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I think he should sue her and the one who published the story for defamation. I'm sure he's blacklisted over this.



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I see no need to really vilify either party involved. It is largely in the hands of society how to react to something like this, not on the accuser or the accused. As such, we have simply learned a little bit about Ansari's personal life (something not entirely uncommon for celebrities).

What do we do with this information? It is the role of the discussion to figure that part out, not to attack the accuser.



VGPolyglot said:
JWeinCom said:

Because she is an adult with agency.  It is her job to express clearly what she wants and what she does not want.  

So, if you go to punch someone, instead of asking them for permission first it's on the person getting punched to say they don't want to get punched?

Do I have to explain the difference between punching someone and making amorous advances on a date?

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I would not call what he did as, "sexual assault." Was he bad a reading cues? Sure, but he never forced himself on her or made her do anything after she said, no. She even texted him the next day and told him she felt uncomfortable. He texted back, he understood and was sorry. When I'm with a women after we've gone out and we came back to one of our places, of course I'm going to try and make a move. If she ever said no, which has happened, then I stopped. This sounds similar to this.



VGPolyglot said:
JWeinCom said:

No, the easiest way to avoid this is for the girl to say no or stop when the guy is doing something she doesn't want to do.  

Why should she have to say no first, shouldn't he ask first?

or else it turns into 20 questions every time... 



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Tables are turning. Some men are now coming out and talking about women assaulting them.



VGPolyglot said:
JWeinCom said:

Because she is an adult with agency.  It is her job to express clearly what she wants and what she does not want.  

So, if you go to punch someone, instead of asking them for permission first it's on the person getting punched to say they don't want to get punched?

One of the worst analogies I've ever seen in my entire life.



From her account he does come off as an entitled horny guy, that said the moment a woman wraps her lips around a dude's dick is the moment from which many guys are going to assume sex is going to happen and pursue it. That's a "non-verbal cue" too. 

I think it was a case of a girl who thought she was gonna have a relationship or something meaningful with a famous/successful guy and that guy who thought he was getting his weekly hook up from a party/club. When she realized that she was just going to be a "hook-up" the night turned sour for her, he didn't read that because he was still thinking about her sucking his dick a few minutes earlier.  They both seemed to have misread the situation.

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I hope she gets charged.



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Aeolus451 said:
I think he should sue her and the one who published the story for defamation. I'm sure he's blacklisted over this.

It wouldn't help his image and wouldn't get anything out of it.

Its not really defamation, its just fucked up she allowed things happen and then uses it attack him. I don't think there is a case here but she's a douche.



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