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vivster said:
Seventizz said:

I’m going to assume you’re not a Canadian and this is the first time you’ve stumbled upon this bill and have put little thought into your reasoning.  You’re not alone - it’s what liberals do.

I live in Germany, which is one of the most liberal and leftist countries you can be in. Yes even more leftist than Canada. That bill is nothing compared to what is already law in Germany. I haven't seen anyone go to jail yet for simply stating an opinion. I've seen plenty of blatant racists being charged, though. So the laws work as intended.

You haven't yet explained yourself and just said I should google something instead of explaining your point. But don't worry, you're not alone - it's what right wing extremists do.

Ah, Germany.  You know - I had a long talk with a German woman this summer and she told me that patriotism is frowned upon and they’re only taught be be embarrassed of their history/identity.  She also told me that the last time they had any pride in themselves is when they won some big soccer game.



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vivster said:
OTBWY said:

At least it's good to see that we can agree on some things, especially this subject. It IS basic human decency.

That's just because I'm also a leftist communist by accident.

I supported Corbyn so by some I could be considered that as well.



The story was a possibile hate crime attack.

It turned into Fake News when the media in this country and the School Board did the unusal step of having a grand news confrence with the child and the media and pushing this narative about how racist Canada is for Muslims.

Reality is Canada is one of the best countries for Muslims to worship and pray and the fact this turned into fake news, has really shaken a lot of peoples credability in Canadian Media.

How fast the media has stopped reporting it on this story also speaks volumes.

I dont trust media usually because I do believe in the facts given but it is rater obvious that everything is told through a lens of some editor or board trying to push an agenda.



LadyJasmine said:

The story was a possibile hate crime attack.

It turned into Fake News when the media in this country and the School Board did the unusal step of having a grand news confrence with the child and the media and pushing this narative about how racist Canada is for Muslims.

Reality is Canada is one of the best countries for Muslims to worship and pray and the fact this turned into fake news, has really shaken a lot of peoples credability in Canadian Media.

How fast the media has stopped reporting it on this story also speaks volumes.

I dont trust media usually because I do believe in the facts given but it is rater obvious that everything is told through a lens of some editor or board trying to push an agenda.

Well, the CBC was given a huge raise when the Liberals won the election so their survival depends on fluffing the Liberals at every opportunity.  They barely even open up their comment section anymore in fear that Canadians will call them out on their poor and ultra biased journalism.  The girl’s face and name were plastered everywhere.  I mean, she’s 11.  Is that even legal?  It’s certainly not moral.

Last edited by Seventizz - on 16 January 2018

Seventizz said:
VGPolyglot said:

Ah, the Canada where Rebel Media is considered to be a credible source of information I see.

What's inaccurate about the video I posted?

You'll have to wait until I'm back from school until I get a more in-depth response. However, if the bill you told Vivster about is the one I think it is, that is nonbinding so it essentially means nothing.



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Now the CBC blurred the girls face before splashing it across the main page over the entire weekend.



This kind of stuff always gets attention. It's volatile and gets people talking because it confirms or preys upon fears and agendas. "Immigrant attacks woman", "Black man rapes white woman", "White man beats innocent Muslim", "Cop shoots unarmed black male". Stories like this jump out at you. Sometimes, they're just made up.

I remember back when I was a cop. The area I live in was roughly 50/50 black and white. I got a call--i honestly can't remember what the initial call was but when I got there, a white female was laying on the floor next to her overturned wheelchair. She said she was raped by a black male. I immediately called for backup and different agencies from all over were looking for this black male who left on foot in our rural town. A few hours later, everyone left and my investigator friend told me the whole thing was made up. She just wanted attention.

The media, in their rush to report the news, probably didn't investigate as thoroughly as they could have, or (more likely) just reported the story as it was reported to the police. Certain stories just gain traction as national headlines. Remember "Balloon Boy"?

Nobody looks good when false stories are reported. Just hope that the people who use these stories for political gain are paying attention when they're revealed to be false reports.

 

*Edit* I live in the United States and haven't heard this story, btw



I just think the media writes endless thinkpiece articles wondering why society is so polarized and divided.

Its mostly thier drive to get attention and clickbait article clicks on social media... is the reason why.


Instead of Possibile hate crime in Toronto... the story was henious attack on Muslim girl wearing a hijab.

what drives the clicks?



Aeolus451 said:
Puppyroach said:

You are referencing an article that clearly states that police confirms that the attack did not happen, so I don´t get the issue? Yes, media outlets should always be cautious about all storys they get, and report if the news are incorrect. 

And using the term "Fake news" - this is a soundbite term mostly used by an orange president to knock down on every news he does not like, independent of its correctness. Can we just skip using such a simplistic term promoted by a reality star?

First of all, it was the news or Hillary that first start using that term. I think that it was right after the election when they tried to say trump won because of "fake news" being circulated on facebook. A lot of the right thought that the term was ironic. The news doesn't like the term so much now.

The issue is that the story became international news overnight without them checking into it. They're too invested in this little war of theirs and it's making them look stupid.

And ironically the media itself seems to be using the term every now and then. The truth doesn't really matter for the media, as long as the story itself fits their narrative.

By the way, if a 80's kid jumped to a modern day, they'd be amazed how many ninjas you can see in the modern street image. 



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vivster said:
Seventizz said:

Google Bill M103.

"Condemn Islamophobia and all forms of systemic racism and religious discrimination" seems like a pretty moderate thing to do. I think some people forget that there is such a thing as context and moderation when it comes to rules, morals and laws.

There is a difference between running over a kitten by accident because it jumped in front of your car and boldly proclaiming on a public platform to start the kitten holocaust. Just because the latter person will go to jail doesn't mean the former will.

Context and intent. Those words are pretty important in law and general social behavior. If you look those up it might relieve your fears of persecution a bit.

While I agree on the context, intent and moderation, there's few problems: I find it unbelievable that a modern society would still make blasphemy laws (then again, this is Americas we're talking about, which is much more religious than Europe). If we make "one type of discrimination" illegal, why don't we make all discrimination illegal, so that everyone would be happy and equal. Also, the definions used for what is "islamophobia", for example, is very important: real-life examples show us, that if an imaam want's death to western society, it is not considered hate speech, but condemning the imaam is considered islamophobia, or wanting death to the imaam who want's you dead is considered hate speech.

Strictly speaking of "phobia", what next the want illegal? Fear of the dark? Snakes? Spiders? 

vivster said:
Seventizz said:

I’m going to assume you’re not a Canadian and this is the first time you’ve stumbled upon this bill and have put little thought into your reasoning.  You’re not alone - it’s what liberals do.

I live in Germany, which is one of the most liberal and leftist countries you can be in. Yes even more leftist than Canada. That bill is nothing compared to what is already law in Germany. I haven't seen anyone go to jail yet for simply stating an opinion. I've seen plenty of blatant racists being charged, though. So the laws work as intended.

You haven't yet explained yourself and just said I should google something instead of explaining your point. But don't worry, you're not alone - it's what right wing extremists do.

You know you're liberal when the left hates you as much as the right does.

Germany is on the left so far. The more right wing immigrants there's coming, the more on the right the country will turn to.

How many of those blatant racists get charged in Germany? Is it that if you're certain ethnicity or religion, you can get away for doing the same thing that others can't?



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