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DonFerrari on 15 January 2018
bdbdbd said:
DonFerrari said:
So the greenhouse effect will be less problematic?

Well of course not. The newer models of greenhouse effect shows that the climate is actually cooling because of it.

So the greenhouse will "hold the cold inside"?



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bdbdbd on 15 January 2018
DonFerrari said:
bdbdbd said:

Well of course not. The newer models of greenhouse effect shows that the climate is actually cooling because of it.

So the greenhouse will "hold the cold inside"?

Of course. That's because 90% of the climate discussion is politics, it means that anything that happens one way or the other is caused by climate change - and when nothing happens, it the fault of climate change, because obviously something would need to happen in that case.

It's like fat that's always causing heart disease - no matter if you eat it or not (in reality the problem is high carbohydrate diet and insulin resistance that's caused by it).



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fory77 on 15 January 2018

Cool!



Gamer147 on 15 January 2018

Yes some scientists are arguing that we are actually going to experience global cooling.



Teeqoz on 15 January 2018
DonFerrari said:
bdbdbd said:

Well of course not. The newer models of greenhouse effect shows that the climate is actually cooling because of it.

So the greenhouse will "hold the cold inside"?

That is not how greenhouse gases work. Like at all.

Greenhouse gases reflect EM radiation of longer wavelengths, such as infrared, which are the wavelengths that the earth gives off the most off (because the earth's temperature of about 290 Kelvin is pretty low), while the sun primarily radiates in much shorter wavelengths due to it's higher temperature of about 5500 Kelvin, and those shorter wavelenghts are much less affected by greenhouse gases. Hence why greenhouse gases lead to an overall increase in temperature. Without them, the average temperature on earth would be about -18 degrees celsius.

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Flilix on 15 January 2018
CaptainExplosion said:
I'm not very knowledgeable with this sort of thing, is it good or bad?

Technically it's a good thing, since it would partially counter the current global warming. However, it's not fully clear yet how it would have an impact on our planet, and it seems like its impact will probably be very small (compared to the greenhouse effect).



Errorist76 on 15 January 2018
bdbdbd said:
DonFerrari said:
So the greenhouse effect will be less problematic?

Well of course not. The newer models of greenhouse effect shows that the climate is actually cooling because of it.

Those published by the Trump team I guess?!



Flilix on 15 January 2018
CaptainExplosion said:
Flilix said:

Technically it's a good thing, since it would partially counter the current global warming. However, it's not fully clear yet how it would have an impact on our planet, and it seems like its impact will probably be very small (compared to the greenhouse effect).

Well, this year we got more snow in Southern Ontario than last year, but I don't really know about the rest of North America.

Weren't there a few nasty blizzards in the United States around this past Christmas season?

That's annecdotal. Weather is unstable and often hard to predict. You need to look at global temperatures on the whole planet: 2017 was the second hottest year ever, just behind 2016.



Errorist76 on 15 January 2018
CaptainExplosion said:
Flilix said:

Technically it's a good thing, since it would partially counter the current global warming. However, it's not fully clear yet how it would have an impact on our planet, and it seems like its impact will probably be very small (compared to the greenhouse effect).

Well we've gotten more snow than last year in Southern Ontario, and weren't there a few freak blizzards in the United States this past few months?

And were having the most pathetic winter since decades in Germany, same as the last two years. Barely under 0° C and Australia is having the worst heat period since ages, there is snow in the Sahara desert...

Don't be naive like your idiot "president" to think "climate change" only affects one region in one direction.



Errorist76 on 15 January 2018
CaptainExplosion said:
Errorist76 said:

And were having the most pathetic winter since decades in Germany, same as the last two years. Barely under 0° C and Australia is having the worst heat period since ages, there is snow in the Sahara desert...

Don't be naive like your idiot "president" to think "climate change" only affects one region in one direction.

I'm Canadian.

I'm sorry :) I don't even know why I assumed you were US American....just confused Ontario with being in the US I guess. You get the picture.

 

Regardless..don't be like Trump!