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dukerx2 on 02 February 2018

I think the writing and VO for him hurt him the most as a character.



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Porcupine_I on 03 February 2018

Kratos motivation is hate. Hate for himself, hate for the gods and contempt for everyone else. It's the only thing that keeps him going through most of the games. I don't think that makes him one dimensional or underwritten. It's just the only thing he has left, the only thing that keeps him want to live. That makes him a rather unique character.



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GOWTLOZ on 03 February 2018
Porcupine_I said:
Kratos motivation is hate. Hate for himself, hate for the gods and contempt for everyone else. It's the only thing that keeps him going through most of the games. I don't think that makes him one dimensional or underwritten. It's just the only thing he has left, the only thing that keeps him want to live. That makes him a rather unique character.

He lost his family because of the Gods so it makes sense for him to be hateful towards the Gods. He lead the Spartan army so it makes sense that he didn't bat an eye when taking out anyone standing in his way. People take his story way out of context especially the ones who have only seen some youtube videos of the GOW games. His story makes sense in his context.



torok on 05 February 2018
twintail said:

1) You are totally right. Im not trying to say that they were clear and fulfilled their end from the very beginning this deal was struck. Just that Athenas words from the beginning of GoW1 are exactly what she gives Kratos at the end.

2) Totally, erasing his memories was just a selfish at, and the easy way out.

3) I think the suicide scene is definitely a good one. Now just the breaking point for him as you say. Its about man vs god. determinism vs fatalism.

4) Yeah I dont want to suppose its that deep. But I think it ties in nicely into not having to rely on a greater power. And kratos embodies that for humanity (thematically )

 

Sorry for the late reply but thanks for the discussion. Always good to chat about a series like GoW where ppl just assume it has nothing going for it in terms of narrative themes or characterisation.

I think a lot of people assume the series is shallow because they never played the games or never paid attention to the plot. Even the general brutality is reasonable in the context of the Greek mythology, the Gods themselves were completely barbaric.

I really see it as a man vs Gods situation. And the GOW4 trailers seem to indicate that even Gods from other mythologies can't give the guy a break.



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GOWTLOZ on 06 February 2018
torok said:
twintail said:

1) You are totally right. Im not trying to say that they were clear and fulfilled their end from the very beginning this deal was struck. Just that Athenas words from the beginning of GoW1 are exactly what she gives Kratos at the end.

2) Totally, erasing his memories was just a selfish at, and the easy way out.

3) I think the suicide scene is definitely a good one. Now just the breaking point for him as you say. Its about man vs god. determinism vs fatalism.

4) Yeah I dont want to suppose its that deep. But I think it ties in nicely into not having to rely on a greater power. And kratos embodies that for humanity (thematically )

 

Sorry for the late reply but thanks for the discussion. Always good to chat about a series like GoW where ppl just assume it has nothing going for it in terms of narrative themes or characterisation.

I think a lot of people assume the series is shallow because they never played the games or never paid attention to the plot. Even the general brutality is reasonable in the context of the Greek mythology, the Gods themselves were completely barbaric.

I really see it as a man vs Gods situation. And the GOW4 trailers seem to indicate that even Gods from other mythologies can't give the guy a break.

I'm sure that's true because most people disliking the series make one dimensional comments about it with no context.



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PSintend0 on 06 February 2018

Hmm... he is a shallow B movie character in a B movie creek mythology setting and B movie plot. However the gameplay is good and most of the god of war games are pretty good. Resident evil has a similar situation. Doesn´t stop some of the games from being great.



Teriol on 06 February 2018
Pillertriller said:
DonFerrari said:

One could infer that you are even more unidimensional and with anger issues than even Kratos himself.

Maybe he is so angry with sony because they totally destroyed the poor dreamcast with the ps2? 

perma banned... well deserved.



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NPCmates on 06 February 2018

Great post mate, been reading a bunch of these comments and its good to see people actually paid attention to the story. People just kinda didn't take it for more than a brutal hack and slash adventure but there was a story and a character there. I can see how people just see an angry man but as you can see from the posts above there is far more to him and the story.



KLAMarine on 06 February 2018

I don't understand why some people dislike Kratos. I like him because he's just constantly pissed off because reasons. Hearing him shout at things and grimacing at them before tearing shit up gets me pumped...

I like him most times anyways when he's not being a total asshole.