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Storywise, God of War should haqve been an one-off game without any sequels, as they destroy what the first game set up: That he has just himself to blame for his actions. Later games dumbed down on the character almost to the level of a standard hero prototype, which is everything he isn't.



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He's a fine character, but it was boring by the end. The reboot was badly needed if they want to continue it at all.

I'll be interested to see how they handle it. Like I said, I'm bored with his character NOW, but if this is a completely different Kratos or his memory is wiped or something, then I'll give the new one a shot.



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Hynad said:
SegataSanshiro said:
He's vastly overrated and one of the worst characters in gaming. Not to mention he's an idiot.Yeah tricked like the idiot he is to kill his family. He's so broken up about it he fucks some whores. Asura has the same concept but executed much better in the story. I'm sorry but the GoW games I played, GoW 2, Chains of Olympus and Ascension are some of the shittiest action games I've ever played. There is no way Kratos is underrated. Is Mario underrated or Master Chief? Only one of the most popular around. Bullshit. He's an asshole all the way through. It's no wonder Kratos sucks as a character. David Jaffe directed GoW. Jaffe thinks what is cool at 13 years old is edgy and mature. (just look at the garbage that is Drawn to Death.)

Per your post history, it's like you think everything is shit.

Especially if it's Sony related.

Ignor him he is just a troll.

Kratos is a great character! And i love his character developement in the new god of war. I love it when bad guy become more soft hearted, but still are savages in the right moments



Even though I don't like the character, I really liked GoW 2 and 3. The portable games and the first one, not so much. It's okay. This is video gaming. He doesn't have to be complex and compelling for me to enjoy his games. The upcoming game looks to change people's perception of him. Hope the story doesn't detract from the fun.



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GOWTLOZ said: 

Kratos is then sent on a quest to kill Ares who plots to overthrow Olympus and the Gods promise to forgive him for his sins which was perpetuated by Ares and not his fault. He does as told but then they back out of it saying that he is forgiven for his sins but has to live with their memories.

 

torok said:  Either way, he still followed the Gods, doing their deeds with the promise they would end his nightmares. Well, they order him to stop Ares so he does it and also gets a sweet revenge. Then the Gods act as even bigger douches and say "screw you, we won't remove your nightmares". 

I think you guys have this wrong. The gods dont back out of any promise they make. 

What Athena says to him at the beginning of GoW 1 that if he kills Ares then 'his past will be forgiven'. Obviously to Kratos, and to the gamer, we assume it to be what Kratos wants. But as we learn its his, and our own, misconception.  She never said that she would take away the memories that haunt him. And in the end she says his past is forgiven just as she promised. 

But this is important nonetheless since it highlights the fundamental flaw of Kratos: his inability to accept responsibility for this actions and therefore be unable to forgive himself what he did to his family. He can hide behind Ares tricking him, but he still killed his wife and daughter with his own hands. He wants the Gods to erase these memories (nightmares) because he cant accept what he did. He wants to kill himself because maybe that will end everything. But it doesn't. It wont. Its why family becomes a key theme in GoW3, especially with Pandora and Zeus mocking him etc. Kratos is so hellbent on getting revenge, and blaming others etc that he doesnt see who is really at fault: himself. And the final story arc of GoW3 is about this realisation. 

Likewise its important to note that Kratos view of the Gods only becomes one of pessimism as the games go on. Where he was once asking Ares for his help, he now feels betrayed and despises what the Gods represent. Not getting what he wanted in GoW is a defining point in him becoming unhinged... its also a defining point in the Gods ultimately sealing their own fate by thinking that can control a man who has suffered like he has suffered by making him a God. 

Also I disagree with the idea that he just wants all the gods dead. He just wants Zeus dead. The others just happen to stand in his way. Likewise, Kratos comes to the realisation that power cannot be placed in the hands of the Gods because he knows first hand that it just creates a cycle of control, but also indirectly a cycle of not assuming responsibility  for your own actions because man will just worship Gods whenever they need help (this is more metaphorical) . Kratos forgiving himself and reaching this point of accepting what he had down is the ultimate stand against the Gods. He doesnt need them. And he never did.  And this is how they lose their power and influence. 



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Reading some of the comments, I'm actually glad Kratos isn't a run of the mill hero. I like not liking him and the story was pretty good.



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d21lewis said:
Reading some of the comments, I'm actually glad Kratos isn't a run of the mill hero. I like not liking him and the story was pretty good.

He is one of my favorite characters ever in video games, but its good they took a different route with the new one



d21lewis said:
Even though I don't like the character, I really liked GoW 2 and 3. The portable games and the first one, not so much. It's okay. This is video gaming. He doesn't have to be complex and compelling for me to enjoy his games. The upcoming game looks to change people's perception of him. Hope the story doesn't detract from the fun.

the new GOW looks kinda complicated.... away from the hack and slash game....

 

videogames industry is becoming like hollywood.... everything have to be serious and gritty...

weird, since marvel studios is keeping their "fun" film and didn't push the "serious" tone like the hulk films or the amazing Batman trilogy



 

Kratos is one of the best and most captivating gaming anti-heores that was ever made. That why there are so many people who hate it and so many who absolutly adore him. He represents everything that is bad in humans yet in the same time you can constantly see what power and possibilities lie behind it, and you are never surprised when he manages to push things even more over the top than they are.

And the next game simply seems like the same concept but backed up by an even more refined character development. Love it or hate it there is a reason why he managed to become one of the most icoic gaming characters in 15 years.



Yep, he isn't unidimensional. The is based on hack and slash so much more focus is given to the killing.



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