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Shovelware = Indie games I don't know/care about?

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AngryLittleAlchemist said:
Shovelware = Indie games I don't know/care about?

lol

Pretty much yeah




darkrulier said:
AngryLittleAlchemist said:
Shovelware = Indie games I don't know/care about?

lol

Pretty much yeah

Hmm... yeah, that's not shovelware... unless your talking about Shovel Knight ...but you know because of the pun, not because it's the actually the term that is "shovelware". Sorry to explain the joke, but I feel like this is a topic I need to be specific about with you.



darkrulier said:
AngryLittleAlchemist said:
Shovelware = Indie games I don't know/care about?

lol

Pretty much yeah

That's not what shovelware is considered to be I believe. The definition is a bit up for debate though. I kind of see what you mean, though, so fair enough m8. I think the Switch has a fair amount of interesting indies though. Some are even the most anticipated titles this year(AWAY!)



darkrulier said:
AngryLittleAlchemist said:
Shovelware = Indie games I don't know/care about?

lol

Pretty much yeah

Well that's not really shovelware then. There are plenty of games (indie, AAA, B-game, etc) that I don't care for or know about that others enjoy; it is very insulting to the devs of some of these indie games (many of which are quite good) to call their software crap just because it does not appeal to you or me. Shovelware is software that is often broken or branded as a game when it is not really one. Licensed video games or software masquerading as a video game with little genuine effort behind them (ie the games were not developed to be good games but rather to promote some other product) that were released alongside a popular movie of tv shows are what can be considered shovel ware (btw I am not talking about all licensed products, there were quite a few games that were also released in order to cross promote another product that were good and had a decent effort behind it). The Wii waggle games (a good example of this; though there of course other examples on other systems), where often the core gameplay was broken or non-existent are another example of shovel ware. An indie game or another game that does not capture your personal interest does not really qualify as such.



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Sprash said:
Fun Fact: the ps4 was heavenly criticised for the many ports it got, but we can't do the same for nintendo I guess.

Fun Fact: The PS4 was heavily defended by fans from the critic, but we aren't allowed to do the same for Nintendo I guess.



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kopstudent89 said:
Lucas-Rio said:
There are no shovelwares.

However, there are way too many ports....

For Wii U owners, the planning of the first six months 2018 is completely empty. That's terrible.

I agree, Wii U owners won't be too happy. That said seeing s the Wii U had such a small install base, some gamers will be excited for the likes of Bayonetta and DK. I never owned DK so i'm quite excited about it but overall the first few months aren't exciting at all (for most systems actually bar RD2 nothing much going on).

I am a WiiU-owner, but I never played Dark Sould and The World ends with you, and these titles always interested me. Also I think about repurchasing Hyrule Warriors, as it was a great game and the outlook to play it on the go is great.



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Ports sure, froma console nobody bought so it makes 100% sense.

But shovelware? now that's completely made out.



curl-6 said:
Mnementh said:

Look at PS4 int the beginning. Tomb Raider, Skyrim, GTA V, Last of US - the PS4 was the pinnacle of recycled content. The lack of great new games led to Sony PR pushing The Order above what it was. If it had been marketed as a proper mid- to low-level game (which it was) the backlash wouldn't have been that big. But as PR painted it as major AAA-title the people were disappointed. Sony would've never done that, if they had proper AAA-material to show. Nintendo has looked at that. Ports work.

"PS4 did it too" doesn't make it okay though. PS4 rightly caught a lot of flak (to which I contributed) for overloading on reheated ports in place of actual substantial new games early in its life. It would be hypocritical of me to give Nintendo a free pass for doing the same.

At this stage, we're looking at Kirby and Mario Tennis representing the only significant new games of Q1-2 for the Switch. Both look like fine games, but they're hardly system sellers, and ultimately 2 games in half a year just isn't enough. Granted, there is still time for them to announce a surprise heavy hitter for May/June, but if they don't, that's a very lackluster first semester.

OK, it is fair. I agree the PS4 was criticized for that too. My point basically was, that the PS4 sold well despite that, so I think the Switch will be OK. Nevertheless, in the first year the Switch also got some great non-ports (as Breath of the Wild released at the same time I consider it multiplat, not port, just like Persona 5). As a WiiU-owner who bought most of the games now getting ports I'm more or less fine with the lineup, although so far 2018 doesn't look like too much. Dark Souls and TWEWY though makes me happy.



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Mnementh said:
Sprash said:
Fun Fact: the ps4 was heavenly criticised for the many ports it got, but we can't do the same for nintendo I guess.

Fun Fact: The PS4 was heavily defended by fans from the critic, but we aren't allowed to do the same for Nintendo I guess.

and we are back to the but, but, but them too