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Im okay with the lineup for Q1 and Q2. Some titles I am interested in seeing like the SNK: Heroines, Kirby, TWEWY, Dark Souls and Tennis

 

If the thing with a full Direct is usually released within 2 or 3 weeks of the mini Direct continues. I expect to see more of games that were complete no-shows that would at least deserve mentions as they are coming out or were slated for 2018. Like Fire Emblem Switch, Bayonetta 1&2 bundle(Feb 16), the Xenoblade Chronicles 2 DLC (Jan 25th and Spring), etc.



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habam said:
Thats just a horrible lineup. The only new game is mario tennis. All other games..I could have already played them if I would be interested in them. Nintendo is definitly wasting way to many ressources on ports

Probably none of the Wii U ports and other third party ports are being done by Nintendo.So dont worry.



My (locked) thread about how difficulty should be a decision for the developers, not the gamers.

https://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/thread.php?id=241866&page=1

Very weak.

Not a single system seller, and only Kirby and Mario Tennis can even charitably be called major titles.

Switch momentum is going to suffer over the coming months.

Last edited by curl-6 - on 11 January 2018

Nautilus said:
Miyamotoo said:

Well dont pretend like we know hole 1H 2018. Switch lineup, not to mention hole 2018. lineup. We will most likly have more announcements for 1H 2018, this was Mini Direct with reason, Nintendo didnt had big announcements here, we will most likely have another Direct in around March same like last year.

We are not getting anything more for first quarter from Nintendo.Second quarter is a possibility, but the most I expect from Nintendo is FE, and from exclusives maybe Octopath Traveler(that would be quite awesome and enough to make that quarter great though).Other second party exclusives are possible, Ill admit it.

But my point is, Nintendo dosent need nor can keep up with the awesomeness that 2017 was.That was the year that Nintendo had to prove a point and they did that.Not even Nintendo can keep that pipeline of masterpieces going forever, so the beginning of 2018 will suffer a bit for it and thats totally fine.

The second half of the year is a totally different story and Im eager to know more.

Yeah, probably nothing more from Nintendo for Q1, but for Q2 we will probably have something more from Nintendo, maybe we could have even some big game for May-June release, maybe Smash Bros. That espacily goes for 2nd and 3rd party games, remember games like Mario Rabbids, Pokken Tournament, Rocket League, Doom, La Noire, Bayonetta 1-2.. are all announced only around 2-3 months before launch.

I get your point, I just saying we dont have hole picture about 1H of 2018. not to mentione hole 2018.

 

killeryoshis said:
A mini direct is usually followed a big direct so I wouldn't really see the lineup as compete until we see that. Anyway from my personal opinion I love it. I usually don't buy more than a game a month due to time reasons but this lineup is good. I was super late to the Wii U so I missed a lot of its titles. So I welcome our Wii U port overlords. Sales wise I don't think anything special was revealed but I liked it. To me that's almost all that matter

Yeah, people missing point that his was Mini Direct, we usually have big direct not too long after Mini Direct and we dont have big announcement in Mini Direct. And if you actually look at this Mini Direct most of them are ports/remasters, thats why Nintendo did not include new or big games, and thats why they made Mini Direct.



Cerebralbore101 said:
RolStoppable said:

Yeah... no.

Wii U's list is two big new games and nothing else.

Ports don't sell a system. New games do. Just look at the Vita vs the PSP. They both had the same weaknesses vs their Nintendo competition, but PSP sold a respectable amount. Why? Because it had more than just a bunch of ports, and C tier titles. 

Your console can play every single game of the past 30 years, but if it doesn't get big new titles it won't sell. 

XB1 sells poorly compared to PS4, because it doesn't have anything outside of big western multiplats (Yes, all those PC versions of XB1 console exclusive games are multplats). Without  big new games Switch just becomes XB1, but with eastern multiplats replacing western ones. 

This line up is not intended to sell systems.  This line up is intended to keep current customers happy.  I also think that this is mostly first quarter games and not first half.  Having said that, it is likely that Nintendo overestimates their line up this year.  Kimishima projects 20m Switches sold for 2018.  I don't think they are going to sell nearly that much.  I have been saying for a while now that 2018 will be disappointing for Switch sales, but 2019 will put 2017 to shame.  Why would I say such an arbitrary thing?

The answer is in the ports.  Why are 3rd parties porting so many games?  Because in 2017 they realized that the Switch will be a big money maker for them.   But developing games takes time.  The best they can do in 2018 is port over old games or maybe make a small, quick to develop game like SNK Heroines.  In 2019 we will start to see a different story.  In 2019, third party devs, especially the Japanese ones, are going to start putting their best games on the Switch.  Most will be simultaneous multi-plat games and some will be Switch exclusives. 

Right now the Switch is the #1 selling console in Japan by a huge margin.  Japanese devs see the Switch as the main console right now, so it should be clear that they are making their best games for it.  But those games take time to make.  In 2018, we are mostly going to see ports.



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Nautilus said:
habam said:
Thats just a horrible lineup. The only new game is mario tennis. All other games..I could have already played them if I would be interested in them. Nintendo is definitly wasting way to many ressources on ports

Probably none of the Wii U ports and other third party ports are being done by Nintendo.So dont worry.

Doesnt matter, even those external devs could work on actually new games instead of old ones.

Also: In general im okay with ports, if nintendo has them additional to new games. But the only new game so far is mario tennis which im pretty sure will also be based on the wii u game (same engine, same assets, similar gameplay).



The_Liquid_Laser said:

I have been saying for a while now that 2018 will be disappointing for Switch sales, but 2019 will put 2017 to shame.  Why would I say such an arbitrary thing?

Im pretty sceptical about the sales in the future. Sure 2017 was good but they had great marketing and released a 3D Mario, 3D Zelda (both 97/100 meta) on that system and had a port of Mario Kart 8 as well.

Those are basically nintendo biggest franchises, only pokemon is really left.

 

For a Nintendo fan, there was no reason to not get the switch in 2017 imo. The problem is, I expect most nintendo fans owning the system now already. I doubt 3rd party  support will change much either. Pokemon will definitly boost the system but I expect the switch to sell similar to the 3ds in year 2-4, not similar to the ps4.



habam said:
Nautilus said:

Probably none of the Wii U ports and other third party ports are being done by Nintendo.So dont worry.

Doesnt matter, even those external devs could work on actually new games instead of old ones.

Also: In general im okay with ports, if nintendo has them additional to new games. But the only new game so far is mario tennis which im pretty sure will also be based on the wii u game (same engine, same assets, similar gameplay).

Usually the devs that does those ports are devs that only does ports and remasters and stuff like that.Tantalus and the Doom Switch version port developer has no original game under their belt as far as Im aware, so they wouldnt make new games either way.



My (locked) thread about how difficulty should be a decision for the developers, not the gamers.

https://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/thread.php?id=241866&page=1

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habam said:
The_Liquid_Laser said:

I have been saying for a while now that 2018 will be disappointing for Switch sales, but 2019 will put 2017 to shame.  Why would I say such an arbitrary thing?

Im pretty sceptical about the sales in the future. Sure 2017 was good but they had great marketing and released a 3D Mario, 3D Zelda (both 97/100 meta) on that system and had a port of Mario Kart 8 as well.

Those are basically nintendo biggest franchises, only pokemon is really left.

 

For a Nintendo fan, there was no reason to not get the switch in 2017 imo. The problem is, I expect most nintendo fans owning the system now already. I doubt 3rd party  support will change much either. Pokemon will definitly boost the system but I expect the switch to sell similar to the 3ds in year 2-4, not similar to the ps4.

Animal Crossing?Smash Bros?An actual new MK?A 2D Mario game?A new IP that could catch on fire just like Splatoon?People also forget that Zelda never was an 10 million seller, it just that it was always a critically acllaimmed franchise, but not a super big system seller.

The problem is that, the smaller franchises also moves consoles.There are people that also only care for games like FE, Donkey Kong, F Zero, Golden Sun(keeping the hope alive!) and so on.So while those games alone cant match the appeal of the bigger franchises, they togheter can surely have the same strenght in terms of sales simply because they appeal to a huge audience.And they also increment and diversify the library, which by itself also convinces people to buy consoles.

Plues there is also alot of people that want to buy a Switch for games that already released but didnt because of availability, time(adults dont have that much free time) and most important of all, budget.Price drops, in terms of sales, is as important as a big hitter like Pokemon.

So yeah, there is stil a billion cards that Nintendo can play.



My (locked) thread about how difficulty should be a decision for the developers, not the gamers.

https://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/thread.php?id=241866&page=1