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Best Year Ever?

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Subjectively, probably. Just took a look at my top 50 list, and four Nintendo games I played this year made it into my top 20, and two of those will likely end up in my top 10 (unless the last few chapters of Xeno 2 dissapoint me somehow). I don't see any other year come close to that.

Objectively, I have no idea, but it's definitely up there.



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The_Liquid_Laser said:
SegataSanshiro said:
Not if you been alive long enough to see Nintendo in the 80s and early 90s. We remember when we got new IP's of Metroid and Zelda in the same year! 1994 and 1995 were insanely great for SNES.

THIS!

AlfredoTurkey said:
In the 80's, Nintendo's marketshare was over 90% and they were so creative that they were actually INVENTING Mario, Metroid and many of the franchises which we all still play today. So no, 2017 is not their best year. Not by a country mile.

AND THIS!

Shadow1980 said:
Good year? Yes. Best year? Personally, I don't think so. The late 80s & early 90s were consistently strong years for Nintendo. First we saw the NES revitalize the console market and get strong first-party offerings and third-party support, and we saw the Game Boy introduced in 1989 and the SNES in 1991 both with amazing lineups. That was to me Nintendo's golden age. The Switch may very well be their renaissance, though.

YES, YES THIS!!

If you have seen Thor: Ragnarok, then think of that scene where Hela says, "You don't know what the old Odin was like".  If you really think 2017 is their best year ever, then you don't know what old Nintendo was like.  They used to bury their enemies and take no prisoners.  That is because their games were so much better than everyone else's.  On top of that, many people often say, "Do I want a console with Nintendo's 1st party games or another console with with all the great 3rd party games."  The NES was both.  All of the best games were on one console.

People discount how successful the NES was, because they haven't looked at the data carefully.  In the US and Japan, the NES total sales were between PS1 and PS2 once you adjust for population growth.  Only the PS1 and PS2 were selling to people who were already enthusiastic about console gaming.  The NES started with a market that was actively hostile to console gaming and converted the people into enthusiasts.  Take the enthusiasm of the Wii + the staying power of the PS2 and you get the NES.

(And don't get me started on the Gameboy and SNES....)

*Stand and claps*

Considering that the majority of posters here weren't even born when NES or even SNES came out, I suppose it should be expected that they'd think what they're seeing now is the peak for the company. But a quick history lesson and studying of the data shows just how dominant and powerful they were during their 80's and early 90's reign. I mean, back then? The word "Nintendo" was synonymous with " game console". You didn't get an NES for Christmas in 1988. You got a "Nintendo". They were gaming personified.



NightlyPoe said:
AlfredoTurkey said:

Considering that the majority of posters here weren't even born when NES or even SNES came out, I suppose it should be expected that they'd think what they're seeing now is the peak for the company.

I'm more or less the perfect age for a Nintendo fan growing up in their age of dominance in the 80s-90s.  This is certainly up there and I don't believe it's hyperbole to rate it near the top.  Only one year makes the case truly difficult.  1986 when they gave birth to Zelda, Metroid, and Kid Icarus as well as being the year that the NES began to truly dominate the United States market.  Plus a second Super Mario Bros. game came out.  In Zelda and Metroid they had two games that would serve as the prototypes to what would become popular genres, and additionally Dragon Quest came to the Famicon that year and jump-started a third.

Other years have been truly great.  But I believe that I would rank 2017 as the second best year the company has ever had behind 1986.

The NES had a higher marketshare than PS2. It's still the most dominant home console of all time... easily. As kids, we were all eating Nintendo cereal, wearing Nintendo shirts, playing Nintendo games, watching Nintendo cartoons. Nintendo, like I said earlier, was gaming personified. It was a pop culture phenomenon. 

Do you honestly think the company is even close to that now? If so, I find it hard to imagine you were old enough to have experienced that era. I was. There's no contest.



AlfredoTurkey said:
The_Liquid_Laser said:

THIS!

AND THIS!

YES, YES THIS!!

If you have seen Thor: Ragnarok, then think of that scene where Hela says, "You don't know what the old Odin was like".  If you really think 2017 is their best year ever, then you don't know what old Nintendo was like.  They used to bury their enemies and take no prisoners.  That is because their games were so much better than everyone else's.  On top of that, many people often say, "Do I want a console with Nintendo's 1st party games or another console with with all the great 3rd party games."  The NES was both.  All of the best games were on one console.

People discount how successful the NES was, because they haven't looked at the data carefully.  In the US and Japan, the NES total sales were between PS1 and PS2 once you adjust for population growth.  Only the PS1 and PS2 were selling to people who were already enthusiastic about console gaming.  The NES started with a market that was actively hostile to console gaming and converted the people into enthusiasts.  Take the enthusiasm of the Wii + the staying power of the PS2 and you get the NES.

(And don't get me started on the Gameboy and SNES....)

*Stand and claps*

Considering that the majority of posters here weren't even born when NES or even SNES came out, I suppose it should be expected that they'd think what they're seeing now is the peak for the company. But a quick history lesson and studying of the data shows just how dominant and powerful they were during their 80's and early 90's reign. I mean, back then? The word "Nintendo" was synonymous with " game console". You didn't get an NES for Christmas in 1988. You got a "Nintendo". They were gaming personified.

All true.  

For me the most shocking moment in gaming was when everyone I knew bought a PS1 instead of N64, me included.  I only knew one guy with an N64, and he also had a PS1.  We were really just going where the games were, and they all seemed to be going to Playstation.  The success of the Wii and Switch were not shocking to me at all.  Nintendo losing home console gaming to another company?  That was shocking. 



zelmusario said:
Solid post, Platina - I enjoyed reading it. However, I can’t tell whether you’re referring to “best year “ creatively, critically or commercially? Or maybe a combination of all three?

Creatively, I would say no. Nintendo hasn’t been at their peak creatively in a long time, as far as inventing new IP. Critically and commercially, I would say absolutely one of their best years besides 2007. It’s a fantastic time to be a Nintendo fan and feels good to be excited about the company again.

Just an opinion piece, I didn't take solid numbers of anything so probably not commercially :p



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NightlyPoe said:
AlfredoTurkey said:

The NES had a higher marketshare than PS2. It's still the most dominant home console of all time... easily. As kids, we were all eating Nintendo cereal, wearing Nintendo shirts, playing Nintendo games, watching Nintendo cartoons. Nintendo, like I said earlier, was gaming personified. It was a pop culture phenomenon. 

Do you honestly think the company is even close to that now? If so, I find it hard to imagine you were old enough to have experienced that era. I was. There's no contest.

Trust me, I'd be much happier if I wasn't pushing 40.

The question wasn't when the company was at its most dominant or had the most children wearing Mario jammies?  That's easy to answer.  It was which was the best for the company, a question that would encompass business, cultural, and artistic success?

Artistically, I would put 2017 up there with any other year, save 1986 and 1996 with Mario 64, Pokemon, Mario RPG, and Wave Race 64, and Donkey Kong Country 3, and I will freely admit, that was the most important to me.

In terms of business, Nintendo made an incredible comeback, launching what is becoming a phenom in its own right.  In terms of culture, they're riding a significant nostalgia wave.

The_Liquid_Laser said:

All true.  

For me the most shocking moment in gaming was when everyone I knew bought a PS1 instead of N64, me included.  I only knew one guy with an N64, and he also had a PS1.  We were really just going where the games were, and they all seemed to be going to Playstation.  The success of the Wii and Switch were not shocking to me at all.  Nintendo losing home console gaming to another company?  That was shocking. 

I'd still take the N64's lineup over the Playstation's any day.  But, whatever.  The 32/64 bit era was the worst in gaming anyway.

The absolute peak for Nintendo in a business, cultural and artistic sense was definitely 1989.  They had just released the Gameboy and the NES was at it's peak.  Tetris was also released that year, and the Wizard came out in theatres at the end of 1989 heralding the arrival of both Mario 3 and the Nintendo World Championship.  Two 16-bit consoles, the Genesis and Turbographix-16, released in 1989, and the 8-bit NES thoroughly stomped them into the ground sales wise.  

In the US, at least, there was never a better time to be Nintendo than 1989.



For me personally 2007 and 2017 have been great years as a Nintendo fan.

2027 is going to kick ass.



If we are talking Jan-Dec, yes. If we are talking any 12 month stretch, November 2006 - November 2007 is the finest year in Nintendo's history.



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NightlyPoe said:
The_Liquid_Laser said:

The absolute peak for Nintendo in a business, cultural and artistic sense was definitely 1989.  They had just released the Gameboy and the NES was at it's peak.  Tetris was also released that year, and the Wizard came out in theatres at the end of 1989 heralding the arrival of both Mario 3 and the Nintendo World Championship.  Two 16-bit consoles, the Genesis and Turbographix-16, released in 1989, and the 8-bit NES thoroughly stomped them into the ground sales wise.  

In the US, at least, there was never a better time to be Nintendo than 1989.

Your years are off.  Super Mario Bros. 3 came out in 1988 or 1990 in NA.  I'm not sure the Nintendo World Championship is any big deal at all, but that started in 1990.

In terms of software, 1989 was a down year for Nintendo other than the first Mother game being released, Super Mario Land, and their version of Tetris.

My years are not off.  You've gotta read my post carefully though.



2017 is definitely up there. I remember 2008 (Smash and Mario Kart Wii) and 1998 with fondness too though.



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