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epicurean said:
VGPolyglot said:

I guess you'll just have to get used to it.

I'm used to it, I just roll my eyes at this point. If you see a priest in a movie, you pretty much know he's going to show his "true colors" sooner or later in the film. It's like "oooh, a priest! I wonder what evil thing he's going to do!"

It's just lazy, IMO. But it's not specific to religious. They typecast/caricature a lot of groups.

It has a ring of truth to it though. Some of the biggest culprits, criminals, bad people in general tend to masquerade as a "pure" or "undirtied" who is "trying to do good" for the people. Alot of 'em are very charismatic. It's the perfect cover whether they're religious, political or charity based. It some part of alot of people's minds, they expect bad people or someone up to no good to wear some kind of stereotypical villain outfit or persona. 

So I'm very skeptical of too good to be true kinds of people



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Aeolus451 said:
epicurean said:

I'm used to it, I just roll my eyes at this point. If you see a priest in a movie, you pretty much know he's going to show his "true colors" sooner or later in the film. It's like "oooh, a priest! I wonder what evil thing he's going to do!"

It's just lazy, IMO. But it's not specific to religious. They typecast/caricature a lot of groups.

It has a ring of truth to it though. Some of the biggest culprits, criminals, bad people in general tend to masquerade as a "pure" or "undirtied" who is "trying to do good" for the people. Alot of 'em are very charismatic. It's the perfect cover whether they're religious, political or charity based. It some part of alot of people's minds, they expect bad people or someone up to no good to wear some kind of stereotypical villain outfit or persona. 

So I'm very skeptical of too good to be true kinds of people

Yes, there are bad people in the world. But the majority are trying their best to do good (and that goes for any profession). If you go by Hollywood, probably 80% of religious leaders are corrupt and evil. I'm guessing the real number is more like 5% (though, based on your comments, you'll probably highly dispute).



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SpokenTruth said:
epicurean said:

Yes, there are bad people in the world. But the majority are trying their best to do good (and that goes for any profession). If you go by Hollywood, probably 80% of religious leaders are corrupt and evil. I'm guessing the real number is more like 5% (though, based on your comments, you'll probably highly dispute).

In movies, so are 80% of politicians, military leaders, corporate execs......

Yup, as I said above, it seems lazy. They use the same character tropes over and over. 



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SpokenTruth said:
epicurean said:

Yes, there are bad people in the world. But the majority are trying their best to do good (and that goes for any profession). If you go by Hollywood, probably 80% of religious leaders are corrupt and evil. I'm guessing the real number is more like 5% (though, based on your comments, you'll probably highly dispute).

In movies, so are 80% of politicians, military leaders, corporate execs......

Well they do pick sides for those "evil" people.

The OP mentioned how it was Jewish people in charge of this movie, and heck most of Hollywood is run by Jewish. Tell me what the % is for Christians painted in a bad light versus Jewish people?

Or the politicians. Pretty much all politicians that are bad in movies are portrayed as being Republicans. Who do we see Hollywood back during each election? The democrats.

There is a clear bias in their portrayal of evil. One could easily argue they are trying to sway viewers to view how they want.



irstupid said:
SpokenTruth said:

In movies, so are 80% of politicians, military leaders, corporate execs......

Well they do pick sides for those "evil" people.

The OP mentioned how it was Jewish people in charge of this movie, and heck most of Hollywood is run by Jewish. Tell me what the % is for Christians painted in a bad light versus Jewish people?

Or the politicians. Pretty much all politicians that are bad in movies are portrayed as being Republicans. Who do we see Hollywood back during each election? The democrats.

There is a clear bias in their portrayal of evil. One could easily argue they are trying to sway viewers to view how they want.

Yup, I agree with this as well. Well, at least the "republicans are evil" and democrats are "trying to do good" message.



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epicurean said:
Aeolus451 said:

It has a ring of truth to it though. Some of the biggest culprits, criminals, bad people in general tend to masquerade as a "pure" or "undirtied" who is "trying to do good" for the people. Alot of 'em are very charismatic. It's the perfect cover whether they're religious, political or charity based. It some part of alot of people's minds, they expect bad people or someone up to no good to wear some kind of stereotypical villain outfit or persona. 

So I'm very skeptical of too good to be true kinds of people

Yes, there are bad people in the world. But the majority are trying their best to do good (and that goes for any profession). If you go by Hollywood, probably 80% of religious leaders are corrupt and evil. I'm guessing the real number is more like 5% (though, based on your comments, you'll probably highly dispute).

I'm not trying to say anything statistically like you are. I was talking in terms of my personal experience, intuition and what I've read on it. My point was that bad people are attracted to positions of power and positions of moral purity/authority to take advantage of it. I'm not saying that all of them are bad or anything but it's a safe bet if you wanted to find certain kinds of people. 



Aeolus451 said:
epicurean said:

Yes, there are bad people in the world. But the majority are trying their best to do good (and that goes for any profession). If you go by Hollywood, probably 80% of religious leaders are corrupt and evil. I'm guessing the real number is more like 5% (though, based on your comments, you'll probably highly dispute).

I'm not trying to say anything statistically like you are. I was talking in terms of my personal experience, intuition and what I've read on it. My point was that bad people are attracted to positions of power and positions of moral purity/authority to take advantage of it. I'm not saying that all of them are bad or anything but it's a safe bet if you wanted to find certain kinds of people. 

I don't even know if we're disagreeing, or if we are, what about, anymore so I'll just nod. <nodding>



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I think religion is the one that should stop with the bullshit.

 

Know what i wish would end? Religion.

Know what offends me? Religious people who think they deserve special treatment based on the fairy tale they want to believe.

Your issue is so small and priveliged that It's dificult not to laugh at your perception of an agenda like It's some holy war. Utter nonsense.

Last edited by Nem - on 10 January 2018

SpokenTruth said:
o_O.Q said:

"There is no universal, top-down organizational structure in science that is comparable to the Catholic church, or any other similar organization. And that is ultimately what I have a problem with, certain organizational structures."

there is some truth to that... but its not entirely true... have you ever heard of peer review?

That's not what peer review.  I'm rather baffled you are even making the comparison.   Peer review is simply the submission of your work to other scientists for validation by replication. 

i didn't say its the exact same thing but the point is that there is a selective structure within the scientific community like there is in the church... that is vulnerable to subjectivity and flaws



SpokenTruth said:
o_O.Q said:

i didn't say its the exact same thing but the point is that there is a selective structure within the scientific community like there is in the church... that is vulnerable to subjectivity and flaws

Peer review is not a selective structure either.  There is not an order or hierarchy in the scientific community.

Do you have any idea what peer review is, what it does or how it works?

really? lets say i present findings that show that humans evolved from pigs? would i not be dismissed? is that not selective?

"There is not an order or hierarchy in the scientific community."

what scientist does the general person think of instantly when asked? einstein right? or edison or maybe tesla... how many more can they name?

does that not show that there is a hierarchy where some scientists are more widely respected than others?

"Do you have any idea what peer review is, what it does or how it works?"

what have i posted so far that implies that i do not?