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Forums - Sales Discussion - Weekly Hardware Chart - DECEMBER 9TH 2017

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GuyDuke said:
Nogamez said:
Eh im sure Switch was at 9.8mill last update, sell 700k updates by 400k. Im confused.

Yeah, I'm sure the total doesn't work. Nintendo announced 10 million sold already, and many assumed it was by December 1st or close, so it should be at least 10.5-10.7 million now for a regular Holiday week.

The numbers don't add up on VGC.

I don't know who this many you talk about are... being that Nintendo announced 10M sold as of December 10th... don't know why any would assume they meat the sold that number by December 1st or even 3rd as opposed to by December 9th which would have marked the end of the week before that 10M announcement.

xMetroid said:
Intrinsic said:

Thats the difference between a $400 box and a $300.

I am beginning to think this is going to  be the PS4s peak year though... don't see how its gonna top this year next year.

Yea I don't see it happening too. Switch will have a bigger presence than last year and probably discounts and bundles at the end of the year. While PS4 already had the pro close to 2017, the slim model got huge discounts during the end of the year, it had so many bundles with the biggest franchises, games have been announced for a while, if you wanted the games coming you would probably have gotten the PS4 at the end of 2017 when it was cheap.. Sony's exclusives don't really boost sales of their platforms it's mainly big AAA and at this point the next COD/FIFA won't have the same impact. 

I don't think it will fall off in 2018 but I don'T see it topping 2017.

I don't really agree with what you are saying. The PS4 hardware sales has never been driven by any one major title. But by a lot of small boosts across many titles. That has pretty much been the formula to the PS4 success this whole generation. 

Secondly, this whole mindset of "anyone that wants to get it would have got it by now" is just flat out silly. How do you or anyone for that matter know what the market saturation point is or how many people could want to buy a console next year? Its just a ignorant way of thinking. When talking about specific titles though that line of thinking works, like you can rightfulkly say that anyone that wants to buy a PS4 for Uncharted 5 (just an example) already would have bought one being that uncharted 4 has already been released. So guess we can use this when talking about games like FIFA.... howvere, that brings me to the next an final point.

That Price, the PS4 was priced at $199 for all of 3 weeks but only had the stock available to sustatin that price point for less than 2 weeks. That tells us that there is a big market for the PS4 at a $199 price point. This is doubly important when you consider that like every year so far, the PS4 still has a lot of great IPs still coming to the platform, either returning ones for the first time (eg God of War) or new IPs. What reason is there to assume that the same formula that has so far worked for every year to this point suddenly becomes useless? 

I don't see it doing another 20M+ year in 2018, but I don't see it doing much less than 18M either. But if the PS4 so far this gen has shown anything, is that it has this way of doing better than most expect.



Bristow9091 said:
Switch has passed the 10m mark rather quicky, how does it compare to PS4's launch? I'm gonna' assume it's beating it, or very close?

PS4 is selling amazingly again, and I'm still surprised by how much it's selling in the US considering that's considered XBOX territory, lol.

Nope, launch aligned the PS4 got to 10M before the NS. For all that is worth.



Intrinsic said:
GuyDuke said:

Yeah, I'm sure the total doesn't work. Nintendo announced 10 million sold already, and many assumed it was by December 1st or close, so it should be at least 10.5-10.7 million now for a regular Holiday week.

The numbers don't add up on VGC.

I don't know who this many you talk about are... being that Nintendo announced 10M sold as of December 10th... don't know why any would assume they meat the sold that number by December 1st or even 3rd as opposed to by December 9th which would have marked the end of the week before that 10M announcement.

I made a mistake, I was certain it was on December 1st but that post from trunks corrected me, as I could check it on nintendo.co.jp that it was the case up to December 10th :)



PS4 is selling crazy. Will it keep at it until the year end?



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polofresco said:

PS4 is a monster! Really hurting the European Switch sales with cheapest bundles.

Yeah, but joke's on them. Just wait until they find out that Switch cartridges don't work on a PS4. Muahahahahaha.



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ps4 is beasting and i'm sure this year will be even better than the last



PS4 again over 1 million? impressive!.

I can understand why some people think 2017 will be its peak year, after all looking at those numbers its hard to imagine it doing better this year, however its true that it will get bigger exclusives in 2018 and if it gets a price cut at 199 as well then... yeah it might have a shot at surpassing last year (but in my opinion only if a price cut happens).

At least i do think 2017 may indeed be the year that delivered the best games on the system, or at least the one that delivered the biggest amount of great games on the system.



vivster said:
polofresco said:

PS4 is a monster! Really hurting the European Switch sales with cheapest bundles.

Yeah, but joke's on them. Just wait until they find out that Switch cartridges don't work on a PS4. Muahahahahaha.

You may be joking, but I've seen people at stores asking if they can play Mario on the Playstation xD



Keybladewielder said:
vivster said:

Yeah, but joke's on them. Just wait until they find out that Switch cartridges don't work on a PS4. Muahahahahaha.

You may be joking, but I've seen people at stores asking if they can play Mario on the Playstation xD

When i was 10 years old i legit was looking for some Mario games for the PS1 and i was just surprised i couldn't find any XD

In my defense back then i didn't knew what an exclusive was or anything regarding console wars.