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quickrick on 08 January 2018
zorg1000 said:
quickrick said:

its not really a fair comparison, game boy advance released 2001, ds, and psp 2004. advance only had 3 years before next generation handhelds came out.

But Gameboy having 12 years was a fair comprison?

thats  nintendo combined there ltd, not me.



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quickrick on 08 January 2018
StarDoor said:
quickrick said:

 no. the 360 and ps3 where called hd twins for a reason, they had mostly the same games, but one was cheaper, better controller, and ran games better, so of course people would tend to pick up 360 instead of ps3, especially early on.

 

umm yea all sony had to do was release the ps3 at 399$, and they would have won that genration easy.

Hahaha, what? You just destroyed your own argument!

Your previous post: PS3 had much worse problems than Vita and 3DS.

This post: PS3's only problem was that it was too expensive.

also launching late in europe, and missing the holidays in it's strongest region, but price  was a massive mistake. vita on the other hand just can't compete with 3ds, especially with the shrinking market, and launching later, but it was a much much better device.



Hustensaft on 08 January 2018
quickrick said:

the mobile talk is none sense? almost every single gaming analyst has said mobile  is killing handheld gaming, thats' why 3ds, and vita saw a huge decline, but what ever you're the only smart one it seems. as for switch breaking records lets see how it continues to do. i expected switch to have amazing first year sales, i just don't expect it to last long at all.

I'm confused how people can even see any sort of trend for Switch, and how it makes predicting any trend near impossible. The "record breaking 10 month sales" also probably had a near perfect setup:

- The Switch had ~900k units in March in the US.

- Up to the two holiday months, the switch was signficantly supply constraint, selling only 200-300k per month (or less)

- This supply constraint is very well capable of creating above average demand on the Switch.

- Now come the two holiday months, with actual enough Switch units available to be sold, resulting in the record breaking numbers

- These "fastest selling console ever" can be used quite well to keep the demand (artificial) higher.

There is absolutely no way to predict long term Switch sales from the current numbers. There's absolutely no way to properly determine the actual demand of the console, as it has been seriously supply constraint for most of the year.

You have to look at January/February/March numbers to predict how the Switch will go from it's first 10 months.

 



zorg1000 on 08 January 2018
quickrick said:
zorg1000 said:

But Gameboy having 12 years was a fair comprison?

thats  nintendo combined there ltd, not me.

Thats not what im talking about. You were fine comparing a 7 year handheld to a 12 year handheld but as soon as i bring up the 3.5 year handheld then all of a sudden the amount of years is an unfair compaison.



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quickrick on 08 January 2018
zorg1000 said:
quickrick said:

thats  nintendo combined there ltd, not me.

Thats not what im talking about. You were fine comparing a 7 year handheld to a 12 year handheld but as soon as i bring up the 3.5 year handheld then all of a sudden the amount of years is an unfair compaison.

how do you want me to compare, thats the only LTD i have? gameboy advance is just weird though, why did nintendo release a successor so fast, and then you had a psp which also a strong competition.

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Carl on 08 January 2018
quickrick said:

 no. the 360 and ps3 where called hd twins for a reason, they had mostly the same games, but one was cheaper, better controller, and ran games better, so of course people would tend to pick up 360 instead of ps3, especially early on.

umm yea all sony had to do was release the ps3 at 399$, and they would have won that genration easy. not to mention releasing ps3 very late  in europe, losing way more sales to 360 for the holidays, and it's strongest region.

This is an incredibly ignorant post.



                            

quickrick on 08 January 2018
Carl2291 said:
quickrick said:

 no. the 360 and ps3 where called hd twins for a reason, they had mostly the same games, but one was cheaper, better controller, and ran games better, so of course people would tend to pick up 360 instead of ps3, especially early on.

umm yea all sony had to do was release the ps3 at 399$, and they would have won that genration easy. not to mention releasing ps3 very late  in europe, losing way more sales to 360 for the holidays, and it's strongest region.

This is an incredibly ignorant post.

how?



Carl on 08 January 2018
quickrick said:

how?

The implication that if Sony released the PS3 at $399 they would have won the generation.



                            

quickrick on 08 January 2018
Carl2291 said:
quickrick said:

how?

The implication that if Sony released the PS3 at $399 they would have won the generation.

ps3 sold 87 million, launching late in europe it's best region, and being over priced for the market. i don't see anyway it would have not sold over a 100 million, 360 sales would have sold much worse in europe, because playstation is a much stronger brand, but the price 499$ euros, which is like 700-800$ at the time. I don't see nothing ignorant in my post. just look at ps4 sales in europe after sony got it right.



PortisheadBiscuit on 08 January 2018

quickrick is getting absolutely handled in this thread and still won't give up lol