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Is Sony becoming a little too non-diverse?

Absolutely YASSSS 4 12.50%
 
Nintendo is even more div... 2 6.25%
 
Maybe 1 3.13%
 
A little 0 0%
 
Sony is the king of diver... 12 37.50%
 
Not really 13 40.63%
 
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Aura7541 said:
Eh, it's more of Sony sticking with what they're comfortable with which is narrative-driven games while branching out a bit like what Media Molecule is doing with Dreams and Pixel Opus with Concrete Genie. I do want Sony to make an JRPG and it doesn't necessarily have to be AAA. It can be a smaller budget game with a good story and good characters. But it really depends on what Japan Studios is doing now.

This is what I'm saying. I do care about graphics but not that much.Sony should try becoming more open. AAA gaming nearly destroyed the industry by wasting money on blockbuster games that failed to sell. I'm noy saying I don't need another Uncharted or TLoU in my life but I love what Santa Monica is doing. Other First Party Devs and even Naughty Dog should learn from them. They may have been late with GoW but they've done a fantastic job supporting the development in some of their niche games.

I  hope the success of Nintendo Switch spark a little something on Sony's development team. That competitive fire I remember back when PS3 is just a console for the outcast of society. haha

Who doesn't want a little more diversity? People who don't love that don't love themselves. :)



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kurasakiichimaruALT said:
Ljink96 said:

Well to be fair, Switch is only 10 months old. Most 1st years of consoles don't even get exclusives unless they're ports(Remember 1st year PS4 and Xbone Games?)... I think things will change soon here. But I digress,

PS4 is more diverse overall, that's been its moniker since the PS1. I think the OP meant to criticize Sony's 1st party (which still really isn't as valid but understandable) for their negligence towards JPRGs. But this isn't the 90's anymore. JRPGS aren't the powerhouse they used to be. But even with that being said PS4 is still getting/has a TON of them. Persona 5, Nier, Tales, Ni No Kuni, Dragon Quest XI, Kingdom Hearts 3, Final Fantasy VII...I kind of fail to see the argument here. It's getting more JRPG support that the Switch (as of now). 

That's what I'm saying.(First party exclusives)

Playstation used to be known as a place for niche games and now Nintendo Switch is becoming that console at the pace they are going with. Sony used to provide something different that third party developers don't and I don't see that anymore.

If Sony goes on with that kind of business... I'm going to be tempted to buy a switch. Sony does not understand the situation they are in. PS4 lacks identity. PS3 atleast got something going on with it. Free online+Stylized Game+New IPs but PS4? It's currently defined by third party games and I don't like that. I might  just buy a PC or Switch. Steam provides something that Sony don't. Nintendo is now more open to devs and while Switch will be more successful and compelling than PS4 as time goes by. Anyone should admit it. Nintendo invented an amazing console and Sony should be threatened by it if they keep on sticking with their conservative approach on software development. Switch has the identity that PS4 doesn't have. You can personally tell if it's a switch game or not. PS4? You cab hardly tell because you will find that experience in another platform like PC, Xbox and switch in the future.

Making no sense bro, I agree Sony's thing was that they make games that other 3rd parties aren't making a lot of to round out the library of the console. And they're doing that right now better than ever.

Do you know what type of games aren't being made a lot of these days by 3rd parties? AAA budget single player games with an emphasis on the story. Everyone's going after the GAAS multiplayer model, so Sony's making the games other publishers won't fund. 

Ofcourse they still also have smaller quirky titles like Gravity Rush, Hotshots golf, Concrete Genie, etc. And not to mention a game like Dreams, which no other publisher would even entertain the the thought of funding, but Sony has let their studio spend 6 years making this game that the devs haven't really been able to put into words yet. 

Sony is the best publisher in the industry right now by a LONG shot. We're at a point where publishers have no faith in creating anything new.

Sony is the only one willing to put money into new IPs anymore. just take a look at the new IPs funded by each publisher this generation. Sony alone has funded more new IPs than all major publishers like Nintendo, MS, EA, Activision, Ubisoft, Bethesda, WB games, etc. COMBINED. Yes all of these publishers put together have funded less new IPs than Sony alone. 



If you want RPGs there are plenty in the consoles catalogue. If you want a NS just get one, but most, if not nearly all, of the indies/niche games you are talking about are also on PS4 anyway.

There is a lot of diversity in PS software and attach rates, software sales and hardware sales show Sony is far from doomed.



kurasakiichimaruALT said:
TallSilhouette said:

 I don't think you understand what diversity means. A mixture of original IP, sequels, remakes, popular and niche genres, bigger and smaller budgets, first and third party, etc is plenty diverse. Are you sure you don't mean unique? Hard to do that in an increasingly saturated medium (let alone with any confidence in success), but Dreams is about as unique as it gets and they're doing their damnedest to embrace VR.

kurasakiichimaruALT said:

Let me rephrase it to for everyone. I want more games(not exclusively JRPGs) than what Sony currently offers. Simpler, smaller and double Abudget. Something to keep people entertained while you wait for the bigger games.

They make or commission plenty of those, too. Concrete Genie, Inpatient, Firewall, Blood & Truth, more I'm probably forgetting.

kurasakiichimaruALT said:

If Sony could waste hundreds of millions  of dollars on a flop like Blade Runner the film... I am confused why they can't do the same it for Playstation when it's their most profitable business.

I'm confused. Do you want niche/risky games with smaller budgets (above) or bigger budgets (Detroit, Dreams)?

kurasakiichimaruALT said:

Playstation used to be known as a place for niche games and now Nintendo Switch is becoming that console at the pace they are going with.

Support your argument. How many niche games did Nin release last year compared to Sony? How about this year's lineup?

kurasakiichimaruALT said:

Sony used to provide something different that third party developers don't and I don't see that anymore.

Wth do you call Dreams?

kurasakiichimaruALT said:

PS4 lacks identity.

Its identity is the home console with something for almost everyone. This is supported by the lower individual game sales but higher attach rates and overall hardware and software sales.

kurasakiichimaruALT said:

Steam provides something that Sony don't.

Each big platform provides something the others don't.

kurasakiichimaruALT said:

Switch will be more successful and compelling than PS4 as time goes by.

Starting to think I'm being taken for a ride...

kurasakiichimaruALT said:

Nintendo invented an amazing console and Sony should be threatened by it if they keep on sticking with their conservative approach on software development.

Why should Sony feel threatened when they just had their best year yet doing everything you just criticized while the Switch hardly competes in the same market?

A mixture of games with long developments? PS4 may have a diverse library but the wait is too long.

 

Dreams When was it announced? Wild? Detroit? It took years and it's still not even released and I'm not here for that. Can't call it diverse when it's not even out yet. :p

 

Why should Sony feel complacent? Do you actually believe Nintendo is not trying to eat Sony's lunch with the switch? haha

How is Nintendo eating Sony's lunch? PS4 just had the best year of it's life, which has proven that Switch has had absolutely no effect on PS4.

It has also proven that the average gamer is not buying the Switch but only Nintendo fans who will run out sooner rather than later, and Switch sales will likely drop like a rock.



TallSilhouette said:
kurasakiichimaruALT said:

A mixture of games with long developments? PS4 may have a diverse library but the wait is too long.

Dreams When was it announced? Wild? Detroit? It took years and it's still not even released and I'm not here for that. Can't call it diverse when it's not even out yet. :p

Lol, talk about reaching...

kurasakiichimaruALT said:

Why should Sony feel complacent? Do you actually believe Nintendo is not trying to eat Sony's lunch with the switch? haha

Do you actually believe they are when they're both retreating to their home turfs (Sony more home focused, Nin more mobile) and focusing on different audiences? They both just had excellent years without stepping on each others toes.

How am I reaching? You think the long development of Playstation exclusive games are just fairy tales and dreams. No pun intended. :p

Nintendo retreating to mobile? Jeez. Switch is a console. A hybrid. Sony should take them as a threat. Do you see how easy it was for half of PS2 players to jump on board on 360? Saying Switch is not a threat is just laughable at best. That thing still has no smartphone functionality yet. Imagine the iterations? That could kill Playstation if they don't try a little harder. haha

It's actually Sony has retreated from their identity of bringing games unique to their ecosystem. Exclusives are running dry. They just buy time-exclusives or content  It's only a matter of time when the public catches on that.

You do know PS4 will not continue to sell forever but games will what give the system longevity as long as it's not stuck in development hell like  Dreams or Wild. :p



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I respectfully disagree. I really like that cut the wierd artistic crap of PS3 days and sticking to what the people want.
There are a steady stream of creative indies on PS4, so I would rather just focus the big AAA games that will single-handedly move PS4s, which Uncharted 4/Horizon have done, and GOW/Spiderman will also do.

They should just stick to what works, and clearly making story-driven single player games is working for them.




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The Switch will outsell 3DS (based on VGchartz numbers), according to me, while Intrinsic thinks the opposite will hold true. One month avatar control for the loser's avatar.

flashfire926 said:
I respectfully disagree. I really like that cut the wierd artistic crap of PS3 days and sticking to what the people want.
There are a steady stream of creative indies on PS4, so I would rather just focus the big AAA games that will single-handedly move PS4s, which Uncharted 4/Horizon have done, and GOW/Spiderman will also do.

They should just stick to what works, and clearly making story-driven single player games is working for them.


There's a thing call franchise/genre fatigue.

Sony is close to flooding the market with some similar but not oh so similar games with similar themes but not oh similar hooks or setting. I love the look of God of War but can anyone deny it has not taken any pointers from Naughty Dog?

I think Dreams is the most ambitious and different from what Sony is about to offer but I also don't like the fact it stayed too long in development which hurt Media Molecule's output for the PS4. They could've made LBP themselves but the long development of Dreams... probably killed their time for it even if they wanted to do it.



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kurasakiichimaruALT said:

How am I reaching? You think the long development of Playstation exclusive games are just fairy tales and dreams.

By implying development time somehow has anything to do with diversity...

kurasakiichimaruALT said:

Nintendo retreating to mobile? Jeez. Switch is a console. A hybrid.

It's a glorified handheld with a tv out (something you could do back on the PSP). For a handheld, it's great. For a home console, it sucks ass.

kurasakiichimaruALT said:

Saying Switch is not a threat is just laughable at best. That thing still has no smartphone functionality yet. Imagine the iterations? That could kill Playstation if they don't try a little harder.

The facts say otherwise.

kurasakiichimaruALT said:

It's actually Sony has retreated from their identity of bringing games unique to their ecosystem. Exclusives are running dry. They just buy time-exclusives or content

If you're not even going to try, why should I?



Why’s should Sony develop a first party JRPG when stuff like this is coming out?! 

https://youtu.be/r-sZ-KocTCc

 

Guys, you should really stop arguing with this guy. He’s clearly got a very selective recognition.



Sony has way too many weeb games already. Not a fan of those type of game, I just want Sony to make more shooters.