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IanSolo said:
Ka-pi96 said:

Based on what? Or are you just pulling figures out of your ass?

Like your 40%

Already posted in the other thread. Even a small weekly overestimation of only 10K (UK + Others) for 4 years and now xbox one is overestimated by 2M

"My" 40% is literally the figure that VGC have on their site...



Bet Shiken that COD would outsell Battlefield in 2018. http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=8749702

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Ka-pi96 said:
IanSolo said:

Like your 40%

Already posted in the other thread. Even a small weekly overestimation of only 10K (UK + Others) for 4 years and now xbox one is overestimated by 2M

"My" 40% is literally the figure that VGC have on their site...

We talked about the overestimation of Vgchartz



IanSolo said:
Ka-pi96 said:

"My" 40% is literally the figure that VGC have on their site...

We talked about the overestimation of Vgchartz

No, I asked why you thought VGC was overtracking and you had nothing to back up why you think that is the case. All you had was a source from 2015 that said PS4s market share in continental Europe is between 70-90% and since VGC has at it just shy of 81%... your source would actually suggest VGC is accurate.



Bet Shiken that COD would outsell Battlefield in 2018. http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=8749702

zorg1000 said:
CrazyGamer2017 said:
I heard some said that Switch was supposed to dominate December figures, well It's still only the first week of December but so far the PS4 is still the king

Pretty sure those people were talking about US, not global.

Just shows you how silly celebrating that is when WW ps4 is winning so easily. 



Intrinsic said:
DonFerrari said:

1. 250 with Zelda would be a very good price for February onwards imho.


2. Sure X1 and PS4 are older and cheaper to manufacture, still Nintendo is on the same market and if costing the double while being half as powerful it may drive customers away after the early adopters buy.

 

  1. You must not know nintendo.... only thing that makes them drop the price is sales were sub par. Bust as they are now.... you can kiss any pricedrops in the immediate future goodbye. Unless sales suddenly tank. They will accomplish more in 1 years than they did in 4 years of the WiiU. Of course they aren't dropping any price.

  2. Funny..... there are people taht actually think the NS costs $250+ to make?

    A smartphone with more expensive parts and components (chips, Ram, higher rez screen, more storage space, cameras and more sensors than you can throw water at) costs less than $200 to make. Hell, you can get a tablet with a 7inch screen for as little as $50. 

    yet there are people that really believe that it costs $250 for the entire NS package?

 

I'm sure it isnt as simple as all that. What about the included joy cons, grip, dock, straps, adapter, hdmi cord etc, Dont forget it's quite a bit heavier and bulkier than a tablet so increased shipping and handling costs as well. 

 

Also a marketing campaign for a console I'd imagine is quite a bit more costly than say a $50 RCA tablet. That gets factored into the cost of Switch as well. 



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PortisheadBiscuit said:

I'm sure it isnt as simple as all that. What about the included joy cons, grip, dock, straps, adapter, hdmi cord etc, Dont forget it's quite a bit heavier and bulkier than a tablet so increased shipping and handling costs as well. 

 

Also a marketing campaign for a console I'd imagine is quite a bit more costly than say a $50 RCA tablet. That gets factored into the cost of Switch as well. 

Trust me when I tell you that all those thing you mentioned (especially in bulk) doesn't cost nearly as much as most seem to think they do.

A japanese company tore down the NS and gave their own estimate of everything involved in making the NS and they arrived at $257.

But that company isn't even taking into account whatever kinda deals nintendo may have made for the parts or components used. Eg, they have the joycons priced at $45 on tehir own to make. Not a chance in hell thats accurate when like I said an entire fully working tablet complete with cameras and sensors and processors and screen costs around $50 at RETAIL. So can you imagine how much it cost to make that?

HDMI cord? Cents en masse, dock? Have you seen inside the dock? Do not let its size fool you.

Estimates have it pegged at $250.... I am simply saying I am sure it costs even less than that. Nintendo could have sold the NS at $250 and broke even. But Nintendo will be Nintendo..... and don't even get me started on the prices of their accessories.

Contrary to what nintendo or some of its fans would have you (or most people) believe, we aren't living in a tech vacuum. You wanna have an idea of how much the NS costs? just look around at all the tech already out there.

And lets even assume you are a complete failure of a company and you will not make a dime from sales of software and accessories so you must make consumers pay for your marketing; and we add $10 marketing subcharge to each console sold.... with 10M sales thats $100M. and that still doesn't take the console up to $299. Nintendo just priced the NS as they did cause as they always do? they knew they would get away with it. 



trunkswd said:
The numbers were adjusted slightly. The Bar graph has been updated on the front page (and here), however, the figures chart hasn't updated yet. Some previous weeks were also adjusted slightly.

I do know the Switch is currently overtracked as Nintendo announced 10 million sold on Dec 13. They didn't announce when it hit the figure, so best guess is for the week ending December 9. Adjustments will happen once I figure out sales for that week.

Only because it passed 10 million this does not mean it sold EXACTLY 10 million. May be 10.1-10.2 million or more for what we know.



2020 predictions: NSW 21m, PS5 6m, XSX 4.5m, PS4 9m, XB1 3m
(PS5 and XSX predictions will most likely change after we know enough about them)

Slarvax said:

 

PlatformN. AmericaEuropeJapanGlobal
443,391 340,496 33,421 1,001,089
336,346 111,257 128,945 626,196
405,299 121,049 487 587,494
112,791 74,621 35,147 241,494
925 4,317 5,967 12,989
197 288 47 641
117 267 44 552
153 118 N/A 341

Yikes, the "Beast" could not even help XB1 take Nov and Dec like I thought it would, then go back to the PS4 as the norm.

Just one week it held. The PS4 flood continues. Dang.



Ka-pi96 said:
IanSolo said:

We talked about the overestimation of Vgchartz

No, I asked why you thought VGC was overtracking and you had nothing to back up why you think that is the case. All you had was a source from 2015 that said PS4s market share in continental Europe is between 70-90% and since VGC has at it just shy of 81%... your source would actually suggest VGC is accurate.

I hope that Sony releases the numbers for the UK and Others market, so VGChartz will be really accurate for xbox one, because even a small weekly overestimation, after years it becomes a big overestimation for Xbox one.

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Kerotan said:
zorg1000 said:

Pretty sure those people were talking about US, not global.

Just shows you how silly celebrating that is when WW ps4 is winning so easily. 

Who said anything about celebrating?



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