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Why did switch get almost outsold in the least two global hardware weeks by xbox?



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Ajax said:
Why did switch get almost outsold in the least two global hardware weeks by xbox?

Massive discounts (S model was as low as $189) and Xbox One X just released a few weeks earlier.



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I honestly think this would be a better prospect for the Switch's third year. Historically Nintendo consoles have done their best during their latter years rather than their early ones.



cosmic_drift said:
I honestly think this would be a better prospect for the Switch's third year. Historically Nintendo consoles have done their best during their latter years rather than their early ones.

You sure about that?



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20 millions? Then the PS4 will probably sell 30 millions



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zorg1000 said:
cosmic_drift said:
I honestly think this would be a better prospect for the Switch's third year. Historically Nintendo consoles have done their best during their latter years rather than their early ones.

You sure about that?

Nintendo console sales usually hit their peak during second or third year, and then begin to taper off around the fifth year.

Here is a chart for the 3DS:

https://www.statista.com/statistics/262074/worldwide-sales-of-the-nintendo-3ds-since-2004/

And one for Nintendo home consoles:

https://www.statista.com/statistics/227012/lifetime-unit-sales-of-nintendos-home-consoles/



PAOerfulone said:

- Plenty of ‘B’ tier franchises like Kirby, Yoshi, Fire Emblem, Bayonetta 3, Pikmin 4 and Luigi’s Mansion 3. The former 3 have already been confirmed, the latter 3 are hopefuls.

Bayonetta 3 is confirmed



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Fight-the-Streets said: 
Look at the platform totals http://www.vgchartz.com/analysis/platform_totals/ Nintendo never made good numbers for home consoles in Europe compared to the North American market. Even the Nintendo Wii sold significantly less in Europe. Now, compare the NA and Europe numbers of Sony's home consoles. Europe always sold on eye level. The majority even sold actually better (PS2, PS3 and PS4 so far). Pretty interesting, right? 

One reason why the Playstation brand is so successful in Europe is because people over here have not much interest in the Xbox brand (except UK). If you want to buy a cutting-edge console and you basically have only one option, well, guess what, you will opt for that one option. (Xbox is no real option as it has no real acceptance in the mass market in Europe and 9 out of 10 of your friends you play online with will have a Playstation. Back in the days, N64, Saturn, Dreamcast and Gamecube weren't real options as well because they were all flawed in one or more departments - they all were, together with the original Xbox, just niche consoles).

Nintendo really needs to start a huge marketing offensive in Europe to bring that numbers closer to the NA market. Currently, the European market still just consists only of UK, Germany and France really. The rest of Europe have either a too small population (Scandinavia, Benelux, Austria, Ireland, Switzerland) have a weak buying power (Italy, Spain, virtually all EU countries which don't belong to old Europe + Turkey) or are a combination of both (Portugal, Greece). They are just good for some pocket money. Of course, the combined amount of pocket money made from all those countries is still something.

Nintendo was never competitive in Europe all the way back to the third generation. The Sega Master System outsold the NES despite the NES dominating the US and Japan. It's no surprise that Nintendo's systems have done the best there. 

Sony's rise in gaming had more to do with them removing the licensing requirements from and Sony was able to leverage the company's larger asset pool. When Sega was beaten, Sony took the market from them.

Nintendo does well in some European countries (like France) and poorly in others (like the UK). I don't see that changing unless Nintendo can create a new megahit that appeals there or hope the Switch takes off like the DS did. Europe, in general, doesn't have the same iconography with Nintendo as other regions do, and Nintendo relies heavily on that. Not to say this will hurt Nintendo's ability to sell 20 million. It's more why they struggle compared to Sony systems. 

Huh? Nintendo has most certainly been competitive in Europe. Nintendo Wii was sold out across the continent for 2-3 years. Nintendo handhelds have always been huge in Europe as well. I remember people standing out in the snow for hours waiting to get a Wii. The reason the NES and SNES aren’t more highly represented are mostly because of bad distribution. NES didn’t really have proper availability until after the Mega Drive had already launched, until around the time of the SNES release. Many people were forced into importing software as well, most of my SNES library is imported. N64 didn’t do well because of pricing, games were usually 2-3 times more expensive than PSX games; also, no RPGs hurt N64, because that was the hot genre through Europe back then, and they have remained somewhat big. GameCube didn’t have anything wrong with it except for its weird controller and toxic “kiddie console” reputation.

I think Switch has a good shot at being bigger than the Wii overall. Particularly because of mass transit. Especially if more traditional style RPG battle games come out (like Pokemon), and more non-action simulation type games; it’s why Nintendo handhelds have been big. Stardew Valley is a good start. But the Wii has that party demographic, and I don’t mean “party” as in 3-5 nerds in a basement, but party with drinking/dancing and attractive/fun people. Switch is probably the first console that has a shot at that demographic, we’ll see.



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megaman79 said:
PAOerfulone said:

- Plenty of ‘B’ tier franchises like Kirby, Yoshi, Fire Emblem, Bayonetta 3, Pikmin 4 and Luigi’s Mansion 3. The former 3 have already been confirmed, the latter 3 are hopefuls.

Bayonetta 3 is confirmed

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Pillertriller said:
20 millions? Then the PS4 will probably sell 30 millions

Thats good logic. Hopefully switch can do 25mil so ps4 can automatically do 37.5mil!