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"Christianity, if false, is of no importance, and if true, of infinite importance. The only thing it cannot be is moderately important."

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Zoombael said:

Besides your cherry picking debate style and being wrong about human evolution has stopped, you utterly missed the point, pointlessly trying to weigh positive and negative.

I heavily doubt you have expertise to grasp the scope of the evolution of religion. Its the usual notorious focus on negative aspects, infantile black white thinking, unaware of the beneficial side.

Could you give a few examples of this?



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Peh said:

Rogerioandrade said:

Because both are based on assumptions about  things whose existence will always be  unconclusive: spiritual beings.

Atheism is not about an assumption on a specific question. And atheist can believe in spiritual beings like angels, ghost and other stuff. They just don't believe in Deities. 

In this sense, then,  atheism is also a religion. Thanks for clarifying . : )



Rogerioandrade said:
Peh said:

Atheism is not about an assumption on a specific question. And atheist can believe in spiritual beings like angels, ghost and other stuff. They just don't believe in Deities. 

In this sense, then,  atheism is also a religion. Thanks for clarifying . : )

Nope. Try again. 



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Flilix said:
Zoombael said:

Besides your cherry picking debate style and being wrong about human evolution has stopped, you utterly missed the point, pointlessly trying to weigh positive and negative.

I heavily doubt you have expertise to grasp the scope of the evolution of religion. Its the usual notorious focus on negative aspects, infantile black white thinking, unaware of the beneficial side.

Could you give a few examples of this?

societal cohesion since members have the same goals

similar to the societal cohesion that the atheists advocating for "anarcho communism" or feminism or trans activism or whatever  are trying to push for through government whether they admit it or not 

 

can you give a benefit of atheism? 




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StarOcean said:
I came to this forum a Christian. But over time I’ve slowly eroded towards atheism. At this point I detest Christianity

 

that's quite unfortunate, there are a lot of useful archetypal lessons in the bible and other religions that you'll miss out on

 

on the other hand there's really nothing to learn in atheism... its simply "there is no god" (even though there is no evidence of that) and "ha ha religious people are dumb" 



I couldn't help but register and post after reading through most of this thread.

 

First, I am amazed at most of the mature discussion regarding such a subject, it is good to see. 

 

Second a little about me. I am Christian, but I also love science (I am a mechanical engineer). I had drifted  away from my faith for a time in my life only to be inexplicably drawn back to it, even after earning my degree and expanding my scientific knowledge for many years.

 

I find in any belief of there being no God, where science rules all, that there is a scientific area that cannot be proven or disproven and can explain God's very possible existence. 

 

Simply put, God can be a being from another dimension. If you think about what that means, supernatural occurances don't become automatically disregarded, the odd need for the world to have religion (even today) is explained. This idea opens up possibilities to things we cannot comprehend, and we may never understand because we do not live in such a higher dimension.

 

God's interactions could be interpreted into what we see today in religious texts. Even if one does not believe for instance, that the Bible is real, it could have truths in it. Just like any good legend, there is always at least a grain of truth in them.

 

One can also say (as crazy as this sounds) that God could be a very advanced alien. Maybe there is truth to all of the religions that existed or exist today, they were based off human interactions with aliens lol. It might sound crazy, but the scientific minded would know its incredibly likely aliens exist.

 

Now this might make our religions seem a little primative, but whos to say, scientific minded or not, atheist or whatever, that God or gods etc, can't or don't exist.

 

Sorry for my spelling, grammar etc, engineer, not an editor.

Edit:This is a fun read and makes the hamster wheels in my head turn a little.

http://www.godandscience.org/apologetics/xdimgod.html

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o_O.Q said:
StarOcean said:
I came to this forum a Christian. But over time I’ve slowly eroded towards atheism. At this point I detest Christianity

 

1. that's quite unfortunate, there are a lot of useful archetypal lessons in the bible and other religions that you'll miss out on

 

2. on the other hand there's really nothing to learn in atheism... its simply "there is no god" (even though there is no evidence of that) and "ha ha religious people are dumb" 

1. You know.... you can still cherry pick the good parts and live by them. 

2. No, there is really nothing to learn in atheism, that's why you learn by socialising with your fellow humans. And for the second part... "there is no god" ... you didn't read through the past comments, didn't you? That's an ignorant statement :/



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o_O.Q said:
StarOcean said:
I came to this forum a Christian. But over time I’ve slowly eroded towards atheism. At this point I detest Christianity

 

that's quite unfortunate, there are a lot of useful archetypal lessons in the bible and other religions that you'll miss out on

 

on the other hand there's really nothing to learn in atheism... its simply "there is no god" (even though there is no evidence of that) and "ha ha religious people are dumb" 

Coming from the Christian point of view, please don't insult the atheist psyche. If they want to be assholes, let them be, don't result to using those tactics. Besides, most of the people commenting have been very open about their own ideas and hearing out your own ideas. When you insult them it takes away from your argument and further validates their BS claims.

Basically what I'm saying is don't fall for the bait.



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