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The Fans Have Spoken, Last Jedi Drops A Massive 68%

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The problem with disney is that for old sw fans the damage is already done. JJ cant undo whats been done on TLJ. I think that if he could be the director and writer of ep 9 things would be very different. After all he is a sw fan. Of course he can make a good movie with ep9 but it will be very difficult.
But hey, if it has a lot of explosions, plotholes, sjw dominance probably the critics will love and make another 1 billion on screens.



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Vincoletto said:
The problem with disney is that for old sw fans the damage is already done. JJ cant undo whats been done on TLJ. I think that if he could be the director and writer of ep 9 things would be very different. After all he is a sw fan. Of course he can make a good movie with ep9 but it will be very difficult.
But hey, if it has a lot of explosions, plotholes, sjw dominance probably the critics will love and make another 1 billion on screens.

JJ Abrams is the director of Episode IX. He is co-writing it with Chris Terrio. 



Vincoletto said:
The problem with disney is that for old sw fans the damage is already done. JJ cant undo whats been done on TLJ. I think that if he could be the director and writer of ep 9 things would be very different. After all he is a sw fan. Of course he can make a good movie with ep9 but it will be very difficult.
But hey, if it has a lot of explosions, plotholes, sjw dominance probably the critics will love and make another 1 billion on screens.

From what I understand, JJ Abrams didn't exactly answer questions with Lost so not sure he'll be able to wrap things up neatly in 9. I think Johnson said there was no plan from the start.



KLAMarine said:
Vincoletto said:
The problem with disney is that for old sw fans the damage is already done. JJ cant undo whats been done on TLJ. I think that if he could be the director and writer of ep 9 things would be very different. After all he is a sw fan. Of course he can make a good movie with ep9 but it will be very difficult.
But hey, if it has a lot of explosions, plotholes, sjw dominance probably the critics will love and make another 1 billion on screens.

From what I understand, JJ Abrams didn't exactly answer questions with Lost so not sure he'll be able to wrap things up neatly in 9. I think Johnson said there was no plan from the start.

Considering the guy who wrote BvS and JL is helping to write it, I'd say that movie is pretty much doomed. I'm expecting them to either try to fix things from Ep8, which these two are not capable of doing, at least competently. Or just continue on, excepting everything from Ep8, and make another wannabe Marvel film. 



10% drop is ridiculous, that was never going to realistically happen.

You can't release 3 Star Wars movies in three years and expect $1.8 billion, that's delusional. Anyone who thought that could happen is a moron.

I also find it funny that a "Marvel movie" is used as a derogatory term here when the "audience has clearly spoken" and they love the Marvel formula.



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Vincoletto said:
The problem with disney is that for old sw fans the damage is already done. JJ cant undo whats been done on TLJ. I think that if he could be the director and writer of ep 9 things would be very different. After all he is a sw fan. Of course he can make a good movie with ep9 but it will be very difficult.
But hey, if it has a lot of explosions, plotholes, sjw dominance probably the critics will love and make another 1 billion on screens.

Ep. IX will make more than VIII and more than Revenge of the Sith easily. Book it. 

Also to the point of "go see a movie 2-3x in a theater" ... have you guys looked at how much it costs to go to a theater these days? 2 tickets + popcorn + drinks can easily go north of $50 ... to see the same fucking movie 3x when Star Wars is something that's an annual event ... it's not worth it. 

The Force Awakens was a product of pent up hunger for the franchise and the see ORIGINAL style Star Wars without the CG/stupidity of the prequels, so a lot of people had been waiting a long time for a film like that. 

Even hardcore fanboys are going to see a lot of these movies only once even if they like it and move on. Granted many of these hardcore Star Wars fanboys probably don't have a girlfriend, so that's a substantial savings, lol. 

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Soundwave said:
I also find it funny that a "Marvel movie" is used as a derogatory term here when the "audience has clearly spoken" and they love the Marvel formula.

Marvel movie is always a derogatory term, there's no other way around them. People hate them, because they're good. They especially hate the Guardians of the Galaxy ones, because they're better. It's life.



mZuzek said:
Soundwave said:
I also find it funny that a "Marvel movie" is used as a derogatory term here when the "audience has clearly spoken" and they love the Marvel formula.

Marvel movie is always a derogatory term, there's no other way around them. People hate them, because they're good. They especially hate the Guardians of the Galaxy ones, because they're better. It's life.

Of course, as usual, he only cuts out parts of people's posts to use as a strawman. The point I keep making is that it was a poor attempt at making a Marvel movie. A wannabe. People do like the Marvel films. But, that's what they are, Marvel. People know what to expect. They don't want Star Wars to become Marvel, especially when it's executed so poorly.

The same thing happened with JL. The DCEU isn't as popular as the MCU. So, to try to bring more people in, they made it more like Marvel. But, because it was poorly executed, and it alienated some of the fans who enjoyed the darker tone, instead of being the largest DCEU film, it performed the worst. 



thismeintiel said:
mZuzek said:

Marvel movie is always a derogatory term, there's no other way around them. People hate them, because they're good. They especially hate the Guardians of the Galaxy ones, because they're better. It's life.

Of course, as usual, he only cuts out parts of people's posts to use as a strawman. The point I keep making is that it was a poor attempt at making a Marvel movie. A wannabe. People do like the Marvel films. But, that's what they are, Marvel. People know what to expect. They don't want Star Wars to become Marvel, especially when it's executed so poorly.

The same thing happened with JL. The DCEU isn't as popular as the MCU. So, to try to bring more people in, they made it more like Marvel. But, because it was poorly executed, and it alienated some of the fans who enjoyed the darker tone, instead of being the largest DCEU film, it performed the worst. 

Yeah, all of that makes sense. I'm only being 10% serious with any post at this point, I was well and truly exhausted from this topic 3 weeks ago, let alone now.



mZuzek said:
thismeintiel said:

Of course, as usual, he only cuts out parts of people's posts to use as a strawman. The point I keep making is that it was a poor attempt at making a Marvel movie. A wannabe. People do like the Marvel films. But, that's what they are, Marvel. People know what to expect. They don't want Star Wars to become Marvel, especially when it's executed so poorly.

The same thing happened with JL. The DCEU isn't as popular as the MCU. So, to try to bring more people in, they made it more like Marvel. But, because it was poorly executed, and it alienated some of the fans who enjoyed the darker tone, instead of being the largest DCEU film, it performed the worst. 

Yeah, all of that makes sense. I'm only being 10% serious with any post at this point, I was well and truly exhausted from this topic 3 weeks ago, let alone now.

LOL, you know you don't have to keep posting in here if you don't want to.