It already succeeded and grab a lot of hardcore games who buy more games than the usual casuals.
ManUtdFan said:
Well, most people still have 1080p tvs over 4k ones. And most 4k tvs are rubbish at upscaling with broadcasts. But also, ask yourself this question. Does a 27", 32", 40" screen in 1080p look bad to you? Frame rate should be prioritized over resolution every time. |
Well, the priority of either 4K or 60FPS depends on the game really. At least for me it does. I own a PS4 Pro with a 2016 Sony Bravia 4K HDR TV and when I play Horizon Zero Dawn - I want resolution. But when I'm playing Titanfall 2 - I want 60FPS. When FF7 Remake comes out, I want 30 FPS checkerboard 4K - not 1080P 60 FPS. Not that I'm railing against 1080P, but if I have a 4K console + TV, I'm certainly going to want the resolution that I can get out of it. After seeing and playing Horizon in checkerboard 4K HDR - that's all I want for my cinematic games. Shooters however, I want 60 FPS. People don't generally buy a PS4 Pro to play games in 60 FPS, otherwise they'd change the name of the console and it's advertising campaign.
CartBlanche said:
To be clear Microsoft are making money from Xbox Live subscriptions and downloadable (last gen) games, not as much from console sales. Hence why in the long run they'll drop the console side and go back to their PC roots. 2018 will be a pivotal year for them. If X1X somehow magically takes off, I might be totally wrong about what I've predicted. Right now, based on November and December X1X sales and a lack of 1st party games in 2018, I can't see the trend changing for their super duper console, just yet. Time will tell😀 |
Oh yeah, that is why in the last couple years Microsoft released two separate consoles. Also, Microsoft had a great year regarding console exclusives imo. PUBG already outsold every ps4 exclusive this year in less than a month. POE, Halo wars 2, forza 7 and cup head were some of my favorite games. Only games I like from sony this year was Nioh and Horizon zero dawn somewhat. However, both those games can be beaten within a week or two with little to no replay value.
Microsoft is making billions off of consoles. The pro which Sony said was successful was already outsold by the xbox one x despite being a hundred dollars more expensive.
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Qwark said:
A 4k HDR screen looks far superior to any full HD SDR screen. Some games need to be 60fps others can do just fine with a stable 30fps. Besides there is only so much more memory and a better GPU can do for framerates. But since MS and Sony choose a CPU which was an utter waste of material. The framerates of demanding AAA games will be kept to 30fps when optimised and sub 30fps when not optimised. Perhaps the PS5 will be a 60fps console. But most people are sold on a better picture and not on a higher framerate. Luckily most fast games are 60fps even though they don't look all that great. Nioh and Nier play rather well in 60fps. |
Stable 30 fps isn't so bad. But developers often fall short of that. Check for instance the recent mid-gen upgrade patches for The Witcher 3. There are still issues with frame rate where it's below 30.
Vizigoth04 said:
And with what you said there, perhaps Microsoft is being tight-lipped on any upcoming titles. We know of Sea of Thieves on March 20th. But then really nothing else. So perhaps E3 will be big for Microsoft to announce games coming out in the fall like their usual bread and butter. But with Microsoft being silent with reveals and release dates that's probably is why PlayStation hasn't officially announced release dates either. Yet they have titles to reveal empty slots. We've Got Monster Hunter World (multiplatform) which is going to go just bonkers on PS4 especially in Japan in January. Also in January PSVR's The Inpatient. Shadow of the Collosus Remake and Secret of Mana in February. Ni No Kuni 2 in March. This leaves April through December (8 months) to plan dates best for hopefully; God of War, Detroit, Spiderman, Days Gone, Dreams and Concrete Genie. 6 titles along with 3rd party's; Ace Combat, Anthem, Biohumant, Code Vein, Dark Siders 3, Dragon Quest XI, Kingdom Hearts 3 and Far Cry 5 just to make this book lengthy..... sorry. I think we're all just waiting for Microsoft's next play. |
I really dont think sony is at all concerned about what IP's MS might be hiding up their sleeves. But I do hope MS does have something to show at E3. I think they will have a couple of surprises, when a company is in panic mode is when they get most creative. Already saw it happen twice to nintendo. Lets see if MS has learned anything. I mean, they should at least be able to buy some game exclusives.
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Snoopy said:
Oh yeah, that is why in the last couple years Microsoft released two separate consoles. Also, Microsoft had a great year regarding console exclusives imo. PUBG already outsold every ps4 exclusive this year in less than a month. POE, Halo wars 2, forza 7 and cup head were some of my favorite games. Only games I like from sony this year was Nioh and Horizon zero dawn somewhat. However, both those games can be beaten within a week or two with little to no replay value.
Microsoft is making billions off of consoles. The pro which Sony said was successful was already outsold by the xbox one x despite being a hundred dollars more expensive. |
Not sure how often we have to tell you guys...PUBG is NOT console exclusive! Only the game preview version is.
| Errorist76 said:
Not sure how often we have to tell you guys...PUBG is NOT console exclusive! Only the game preview version is. |
I don't see a playstation or nintendo version and whose to say Microsoft won't purchase the ip and keep it exclusive permanently?
| Errorist76 said:
Not sure how often we have to tell you guys...PUBG is NOT console exclusive! Only the game preview version is. |
Review or not, it's a game people pay for and it's currently only on one console. And it has drawn couple of million in just a couple weeks.
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| Snoopy said: It already succeeded and grab a lot of hardcore games who buy more games than the usual casuals. |
That is also the problem lol. It is for hardcore xbox gamers which is not big
Also I do not think PUBG early access selling more X. They need to have strong December NPD because after that it sales are doing to pretty low I guess.
Snoopy said:
Oh yeah, that is why in the last couple years Microsoft released two separate consoles. Also, Microsoft had a great year regarding console exclusives imo. PUBG already outsold every ps4 exclusive this year in less than a month. POE, Halo wars 2, forza 7 and cup head were some of my favorite games. Only games I like from sony this year was Nioh and Horizon zero dawn somewhat. However, both those games can be beaten within a week or two with little to no replay value.
Microsoft is making billions off of consoles. The pro which Sony said was successful was already outsold by the xbox one x despite being a hundred dollars more expensive. |
They had to release a 2nd console this gen because Xbox One is only selling about 100,000 units world-wide each week. While the PS4/Pro is selling close to 300,000 each week. So Microsoft had to try something to shake up that sales disparity.
Is this the same PUBG that Digital Foundry said "Across one 22 minute game, we noted an average frame-rate of 25.6fps on the base console, rising to 27.6fps on its more powerful 4K-orientated counterpart"?? So the X1X can't even hit 30fps with it?!?!? Not sure you want to use that game as a glowing endorsement for Xbox One X. Also PUBG is a timed exclusive, so we'll have to wait and see how it sells when it is released on PS4/Pro. Hopefully they'll have the frame rate issue fixed by then.
Now, If you want to talk proper exclusives Forza 7 sold 400,000 units, while Gran Turismo has sold 1.3 million units and has been out 2 weeks less than Forza!
Big multi-platform titles sell better on PS4. For example Call of Duty WWII on PS4 sold 3.5 million and on X1 1.6 million in its first week. FIFA 16, one of the biggest franchises, sold 7 million on PS4 and 1.6 million on X1 after 6 weeks in the charts. Grand Theft Auto V has sold 16.1 million on PS4 and 7.1 on X1. Have you noticed the trend yet? PS4 titles, as a minimum, sell 2 times better than X1 titles!!
I'd love to see where you got the numbers of the X1X outselling Pro. But one thing is for sure PS4/Pro outsold X1/X worldwide over the holiday period, starting as far back as Black Friday.
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