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Pemalite said:

Microsoft is still raking in the Billions of dollarydoo's with the Xbox. That is the difference with the examples you provided.

To be clear Microsoft are making money from Xbox Live subscriptions and downloadable (last gen) games, not as much from console sales.

Hence why in the long run they'll drop the console side and go back to their PC roots.

2018 will be a pivotal year for them. If X1X somehow magically takes off, I might be totally wrong about what I've predicted. Right now, based on November and December X1X sales and a lack of 1st party games in 2018, I can't see the trend changing for their super duper console, just yet. Time will tell😀



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No one but Nintendo makes a lot of money off hardware sales. What you described (subscription fees, software sales, plus one you didn’t mention, licensing fees) is how Sony and Microsoft make money in gaming.



CartBlanche said:
Technarchy said: 

Another point that some will have to grudgingly accept is 3rd party multiplatform titles are the dominant forces in the home console market.

X1X now does them better the PS4 and PS4 Pro and that in itself is going to attract customers who play games like Assassins Creed, COD and SW:BFII.

It's easy to spout off a dozen titles that are only on PS4, but most will never enter PS4's top 50 best sellers and will ultimately be a loss for the studios because at the end of the day more people care about COD than Nioh by a wide margin.

To clarify you are saying that X1X will sell due to it's superior power and therefore gamers will choose that console for their multi-platform games over say PS4 and PS4-Pro. In short X1X > PS4/PS4 Pro in future sales, correct?

So why don't you give a theoretical time scale for this swing around? Will we see this trend happen over Xmas, 1st quarter 2018, mid 2018 or end 2018? If you are confident about what you are saying, put a timeframe on it. Then we can revisit this thread in 3, 6, 9 and 12 months time and see how accurate your predictions are compared to others on this thread.

My prediction remains the same. After some initial good sales of the X1X in November/December, PS4 and PS4 Pro combined will continue to outsell X1X and Xbox One combined for the foreseeable future. NPD already showed that PS4/Pro outsold X1/X in the US alone, even though Microsoft launched before the Black Friday weekend. By March 2018, PS4/Pro will consistently outsell X1/X at a rate of 3:1 and above world wide, each month thereafter. With PS4/Pro hitting 100million (maybe more) total units by December 2018. Then in 2019, as PS4/Pro approaches 120million and X1/X goes close to 45million(maybe 50mill, but I doubt it) world wide, we'll see Microsoft bow out of the console market and focus on the Xbox branded PC. 

I look forward to reading your numbers. Its all a bit of fun :)

Did you just say Microsoft will leave console market by the end of 2019?



 

The launch was okay i gues. But sales doesnt seem to be that good any more.



derpysquirtle64 said:

Did you just say Microsoft will leave console market by the end of 2019?

I did :). No point doing safe predictions. So do you think it will be before 2019?



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Pillertriller said:
The launch was okay i gues. But sales doesnt seem to be that good any more.

Agreed, the launch was good, but not great, considering when they launched in November and still got outsold.

Atm, Nintendo Switch is even outselling X1/X world-wide.



LudicrousSpeed said:
No one but Nintendo makes a lot of money off hardware sales. What you described (subscription fees, software sales, plus one you didn’t mention, licensing fees) is how Sony and Microsoft make money in gaming.

I will need to double check, but IIRC both Microsoft and Sony have already started making profits off their current gen consoles. A different scenario to last gen, at least for Sony, as it took them over 5 years before they could start re-couping costs. That's excluding X1X as that is fairly new, but as its an incremental HW update, I would think they can re-coup costs on that quite quickly, if it sells well in the number for the economies of scale make it profitable. A big IF.

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X1X did great on its first month, but again this is not for all type of gamers. $500 is too much for most for a hardware console.

Microsoft really need to have more IPs and release it like how Nintendo would try to have the game(s) per month. The big titles per quarter. They really need to experiment and try to have new IPs, acquire studios and build a robust list of games with different genres. If they are really serious on the console business, else they would just go back to PC. or the next XBOX would just be like a great spec'd Nvdia shield.



CartBlanche said:
derpysquirtle64 said:

Did you just say Microsoft will leave console market by the end of 2019?

I did :). No point doing safe predictions. So do you think it will be before 2019?

No, I see it happening in the next five years and after that we will see. Too early to predict further than that.



 

No, it didn't succeed. The launch was lukewarm. The Scorpio Edition and Base version were available on Amazon for order the day it was released and after, so they didn't sell out - and they weren't getting bought from the shelves from where I work on Black Friday or Cyber Monday. Microsoft couldn't even sell the intentionally limited supply that they had for launch, which in my book is a failure.