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VGPolyglot on 14 December 2017
BasilZero said:
VGPolyglot said:

Why? Don't they already own enough?

 

I'm a consumer, not a investor - so worrying about economics and politics behind corporations is irrelevant to me.

 

Being able to see more content and cross overs is far more interesting than worrying about stocks and whatever other junk people look at.

But the content still exists with other corporations, and a monopoly will boost up prices to the consumer as they have no competition.



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VGPolyglot on 14 December 2017
BasilZero said:
VGPolyglot said:

But the content still exists with other corporations, and a monopoly will boost up prices to the consumer as they have no competition.

 

One of the reasons why Marvel VS Capcom Infinite had a shitty cast of characters compared to MvS 1, 2 and 3 - was because Fox had rights to the X-men, Fantastic four and deadpool (among others).

I for one am glad that Disney now controls all of Marvel - plus the MCU will finally be able to get X-men and those other mentioned characters and stories.

If a monopoly exists, then thats the chance for smaller and other companies to step up.

Its not like humanity will lose the ability to create something new entirely and there's always gonna be competition - never a full blown Monopoly.

It was not because of Fox, that decision was up to Disney. They could have allowed X-Men and Fantastic Four characters if they wanted to.



VGPolyglot on 14 December 2017
BasilZero said:
VGPolyglot said:

It was not because of Fox, that decision was up to Disney. They could have allowed X-Men and Fantastic Four characters if they wanted to.

 

And why do you think they didnt want to?

Because they were trying to force a monopoly.



Leadified on 14 December 2017

Bad news, Disney already owns too much.



LivingMetal on 14 December 2017
BasilZero said:
VGPolyglot said:

But the content still exists with other corporations, and a monopoly will boost up prices to the consumer as they have no competition.

 

One of the reasons why Marvel VS Capcom Infinite had a shitty cast of characters compared to MvS 1, 2 and 3 - was because Fox had rights to the X-men, Fantastic four and deadpool (among others).

I for one am glad that Disney now controls all of Marvel - plus the MCU will finally be able to get X-men and those other mentioned characters and stories.

If a monopoly exists, then thats the chance for smaller and other companies to step up.

Its not like humanity will lose the ability to create something new entirely and there's always gonna be competition - never a full blown Monopoly.

Movie rights, NOT game rights.



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VGPolyglot on 14 December 2017
BasilZero said:
VGPolyglot said:

Because they were trying to force a monopoly.

 

Blah blah Monopoly is all you can say - one sentence wonders.

 

Do some research and look up the history of Marvel Licensing rights - if you think Marvel was gonna share a portion of their profits with Fox just by adding X-Men IP characters just like that, you are only kidding yourself.

 

Anyways, I'm glad X-Men is now back at home with Marvel again 100% - as it should have been like it was prior to the 1990s.

Fox didn't own the video game rights, they wouldn't have had to give them any money at all for it.



LivingMetal on 14 December 2017
BasilZero said:
VGPolyglot said:

It was not because of Fox, that decision was up to Disney. They could have allowed X-Men and Fantastic Four characters if they wanted to.

 

And why do you think they didnt want to?

Marvel has the merchandising rights to all of their characters.  So Marvel had minimized the merchandising for the X-men and even more so the Fantastic Four to maximize the exposure of characters in the MCU over characters who were not.  It's a business thing.



Nymeria on 14 December 2017
Bristow9091 said:
Nymeria said:
If I remember correctly Fox big bet on Avatar 2 was set up to compete with Star Wars IX. I would think now Disney will space out releases with Avatar series shifted to avoid cannibalization. The challenge when you own so much is getting out of your own way.

But isn't Star Wars IX 2019 and Avatar 2 2020 anyway? 

I didn't realize Avatar movies had been delayed already.   It will stand if Disney has a dozen major movie releases be hard to avoid overlap.



DevilRising on 14 December 2017

You have to love how people are cheering for this. As if Disney having an even BIGGER monopoly of the ENTIRE entertainment industry, could ever be any kind of good thing.

Yeah, X-Men and FF can now somehow be shoe-horned, far too late, into the MCU, so that Disney can continue to pump out 3+ Marvel films per year. Every year. For the next several decades.

Honestly....the movie industry is in the sorry state that it is, specifically because the modern movie-going audience has not only allowed them to get this bad, but cheerfully helped them to. People proved with every new Transformers or Fast and the Furious or now Star Wars film, that they will gladly pay for shit. And because shit makes money, movie studios will continue to produce more shit that people will continue to pay for.

People vote with their dollars, and instead of creativity and risk taking and bold new ideas, people have let studios know that what they apparently really want, is a never-ending stream of sequels, franchises, remakes and reboots. So congrats, movie-goers. You did this to yourselves.



VGPolyglot on 14 December 2017
Nymeria said:
Bristow9091 said:

But isn't Star Wars IX 2019 and Avatar 2 2020 anyway? 

I didn't realize Avatar movies had been delayed already.   It will stand if Disney has a dozen major movie releases be hard to avoid overlap.

I think they may actually want to overlap though, they may take a hit in revenue but it will also drown out the films from other companies and make it harder for them to compete.