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DonFerrari said:

Like your comments on GTS right?

LOL, holy shit. You used the word precious earlier. You want to know what is really precious? The way you keep trying to reference back to other stuff completely irrelevant to this game or thread to support your argument, and you fail every single time. Please link me to one single post I have made where I am essentially calling someone a liar for not sharing the same opinion some reviewers had on the game. Just one, please. If you find one, I'll apologize to that person as that wasn't my intention. But guess what, friend? You aren't going to find one. My posts concerning GTS are all simply about elements missing from the game. I don't make a habit of entering threads for games on platforms I don't own or have any interest in just to be negative and imply the people enjoying the game are liars.

I'll be waiting here having a Coke and a smile waiting on you to link that post.

 

DonFerrari said:
Or the comments of some on Driveclub... didn't see you having any issues there.

 

IDGAF about #Driveclub, nor do I log and monitor every single post people make. You can probably add 50 other PS games and 50 other Xbox games and 50 Nintendo games to that list of games people have made shitty posts about without having played the game, unless it's a game I am interested in and I am involved in the discussion, I could not care less. I hope that helps.

DonFerrari said:

A game that most reviews are verifying issues and you claim they don't exist make your narrative the pandering one. Because there is a big difference between "the drops don't bother me, I didn't notice drops and there aren't drops"... you are more on the third one and that is not factual.

Where did I say the issues don't exist, friend? You have a knack for making up bullshit to support your arguments. I don't know if I enjoy the BS more or the constant reference to threads from years ago, but either way, you're wrong. I have said the only time I've noticed any drops are during the opening phase of each match. You do understand how games work, yes? Glitches exist in the game that I haven't seen yet either. Everyone is going to have a different experience. Some will play and experience lots of bugs. Maybe others hang around areas constantly that cause more frame drops. Some will experience very little to no glitches. Some will experience less drops than others. And yet others will not even play the game at all and still speak about it as if they have a shred of a clue as to what they are talking about, LOL.

 

DonFerrari said:

Talk a little with Ludicrous Speed then. And were you the one saying no one was saying there isn't drops?

I literally posted the parts of the game where I noticed drops. And yet here you are putting words into my mouth that there are no drops. How much simpler do you need this explained to you, lol?



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LudicrousSpeed said:
DonFerrari said:

Like your comments on GTS right?

LOL, holy shit. You used the word precious earlier. You want to know what is really precious? The way you keep trying to reference back to other stuff completely irrelevant to this game or thread to support your argument, and you fail every single time. Please link me to one single post I have made where I am essentially calling someone a liar for not sharing the same opinion some reviewers had on the game. Just one, please. If you find one, I'll apologize to that person as that wasn't my intention. But guess what, friend? You aren't going to find one. My posts concerning GTS are all simply about elements missing from the game. I don't make a habit of entering threads for games on platforms I don't own or have any interest in just to be negative and imply the people enjoying the game are liars.

I'll be waiting here having a Coke and a smile waiting on you to link that post.

You are talking about having an impression or opinion on the game that one haven't played. One thing you have extensively done on GTS. And on here I'm doing it based on the game footage that were captured, and on impression of X1 fans and owners on this very thread. You are one of the few ones that are pretending the game is playing great.

DonFerrari said:
Or the comments of some on Driveclub... didn't see you having any issues there.

IDGAF about #Driveclub, nor do I log and monitor every single post people make. You can probably add 50 other PS games and 50 other Xbox games and 50 Nintendo games to that list of games people have made shitty posts about without having played the game, unless it's a game I am interested in and I am involved in the discussion, I could not care less. I hope that helps.
Not talking about other threads. Talking about people in here that bashed DC without playing then and said that didn't play, you didn't found any issues, did you?

DonFerrari said:

A game that most reviews are verifying issues and you claim they don't exist make your narrative the pandering one. Because there is a big difference between "the drops don't bother me, I didn't notice drops and there aren't drops"... you are more on the third one and that is not factual.

Where did I say the issues don't exist, friend? You have a knack for making up bullshit to support your arguments. I don't know if I enjoy the BS more or the constant reference to threads from years ago, but either way, you're wrong. I have said the only time I've noticed any drops are during the opening phase of each match. You do understand how games work, yes? Glitches exist in the game that I haven't seen yet either. Everyone is going to have a different experience. Some will play and experience lots of bugs. Maybe others hang around areas constantly that cause more frame drops. Some will experience very little to no glitches. Some will experience less drops than others. And yet others will not even play the game at all and still speak about it as if they have a shred of a clue as to what they are talking about, LOL.

I probably have said it some 10 times in this thread on reference to you. Go look your own posts of impressions of the game that besides the drop on the pre-game and parachutting, basically areas where you aren't really playing so are irrelevant to the experience, you haven't seem any drop at all. And the reviews and impressions on here is that those issues exist on the gaming sections as well, which you having plaid several hours haven't ever seem. Sure some bugs are present that just some people see while others don't, that would be more prevalent on PC since different arrays of HW will produce several discrepancies on a game, but on VG closed boxes the bugs are more consistent around. And also since this is an preview game that is still very rough, the funny thing is that you seem to be the single blessed player that have 0 issues during gameplay for framerate drop.

DonFerrari said:

Talk a little with Ludicrous Speed then. And were you the one saying no one was saying there isn't drops?

I literally posted the parts of the game where I noticed drops. And yet here you are putting words into my mouth that there are no drops. How much simpler do you need this explained to you, lol?

Look above and the other posts. Or you are just going to use the one I didn't repeated everything? You claimed to see drops only on the pre-session and parachuting, without any drops during the real game, unless this contradicts with this very own post?

I have said the only time I've noticed any drops are during the opening phase of each match



duduspace11 "Well, since we are estimating costs, Pokemon Red/Blue did cost Nintendo about $50m to make back in 1996"

http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=8808363

Mr Puggsly: "Hehe, I said good profit. You said big profit. Frankly, not losing money is what I meant by good. Don't get hung up on semantics"

http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=9008994

Azzanation: "PS5 wouldn't sold out at launch without scalpers."

DonFerrari said:

You are talking about having an impression or opinion on the game that one haven't played. One thing you have extensively done on GTS. And on here I'm doing it based on the game footage that were captured, and on impression of X1 fans and owners on this very thread. You are one of the few ones that are pretending the game is playing great.

Uh, no. Go back and actually read these comments of mine you're quoting and responding to. I don't care if you want to have an opinion on the game without having played it, that's completely normal. What I find "precious" is the idea that you're going to tell someone they aren't being honest about their experience with the game, when you yourself have not played it and thus have no idea what you're talking about. You understand this, it's simple stuff. Hate on PUBG all you want. Form all the opinions you want about it. Don't tell me it's impossible to not notice any frame rate issues outside of the worst performing part when you don't know if its impossible or not because you haven't even played the game :)

 

DonFerrari said:
Not talking about other threads. Talking about people in here that bashed DC without playing then and said that didn't play, you didn't found any issues, did you?

Except, again, I'm not talking about bashing a game without playing it. I'm talking about telling someone else they're lying because they had a different experience while actually playing the game, while the person slinging the liar accusation has not even played it. Again, simple stuff. Hope that helps. Feel free to find that GTS quote where I do that.

 

DonFerrari said:

I probably have said it some 10 times in this thread on reference to you. Go look your own posts of impressions of the game that besides the drop on the pre-game and parachutting, basically areas where you aren't really playing so are irrelevant to the experience, you haven't seem any drop at all. And the reviews and impressions on here is that those issues exist on the gaming sections as well, which you having plaid several hours haven't ever seem. Sure some bugs are present that just some people see while others don't, that would be more prevalent on PC since different arrays of HW will produce several discrepancies on a game, but on VG closed boxes the bugs are more consistent around. And also since this is an preview game that is still very rough, the funny thing is that you seem to be the single blessed player that have 0 issues during gameplay for framerate drop.

So you're upset that I haven't had as bad a time as others, and think therefore I must be lying. That's rich. I have an external HDD, maybe that helps with the frame rate. Maybe I stick to areas less demanding. I don't use vehicles much. "blessed player", it's hilarious how upset this makes you LOL

DonFerrari said:

Look above and the other posts. Or you are just going to use the one I didn't repeated everything? You claimed to see drops only on the pre-session and parachuting, without any drops during the real game, unless this contradicts with this very own post?

I have said the only time I've noticed any drops are during the opening phase of each match

To be honest this is worded so terribly I'm not even going to bother responding.

Feel free to find that link of me calling someone a liar because they don't share my opinion that GTS doesn't have a good SP mode.



LudicrousSpeed said:
DonFerrari said:

You are talking about having an impression or opinion on the game that one haven't played. One thing you have extensively done on GTS. And on here I'm doing it based on the game footage that were captured, and on impression of X1 fans and owners on this very thread. You are one of the few ones that are pretending the game is playing great.

Uh, no. Go back and actually read these comments of mine you're quoting and responding to. I don't care if you want to have an opinion on the game without having played it, that's completely normal. What I find "precious" is the idea that you're going to tell someone they aren't being honest about their experience with the game, when you yourself have not played it and thus have no idea what you're talking about. You understand this, it's simple stuff. Hate on PUBG all you want. Form all the opinions you want about it. Don't tell me it's impossible to not notice any frame rate issues outside of the worst performing part when you don't know if its impossible or not because you haven't even played the game :)

DonFerrari said:
Not talking about other threads. Talking about people in here that bashed DC without playing then and said that didn't play, you didn't found any issues, did you?

Except, again, I'm not talking about bashing a game without playing it. I'm talking about telling someone else they're lying because they had a different experience while actually playing the game, while the person slinging the liar accusation has not even played it. Again, simple stuff. Hope that helps. Feel free to find that GTS quote where I do that.

DonFerrari said:

I probably have said it some 10 times in this thread on reference to you. Go look your own posts of impressions of the game that besides the drop on the pre-game and parachutting, basically areas where you aren't really playing so are irrelevant to the experience, you haven't seem any drop at all. And the reviews and impressions on here is that those issues exist on the gaming sections as well, which you having plaid several hours haven't ever seem. Sure some bugs are present that just some people see while others don't, that would be more prevalent on PC since different arrays of HW will produce several discrepancies on a game, but on VG closed boxes the bugs are more consistent around. And also since this is an preview game that is still very rough, the funny thing is that you seem to be the single blessed player that have 0 issues during gameplay for framerate drop.

So you're upset that I haven't had as bad a time as others, and think therefore I must be lying. That's rich. I have an external HDD, maybe that helps with the frame rate. Maybe I stick to areas less demanding. I don't use vehicles much. "blessed player", it's hilarious how upset this makes you LOL

DonFerrari said:

Look above and the other posts. Or you are just going to use the one I didn't repeated everything? You claimed to see drops only on the pre-session and parachuting, without any drops during the real game, unless this contradicts with this very own post?

I have said the only time I've noticed any drops are during the opening phase of each match

To be honest this is worded so terribly I'm not even going to bother responding.

Feel free to find that link of me calling someone a liar because they don't share my opinion that GTS doesn't have a good SP mode.

I have no hate nor interest in PUBG because it isn't the genre of game I play. I remember MAG proposition and as a proposition I was interested (similar to PUBG on proposition), but not interested to play because of it playstyle.

So I'll repeat, you are the solely blessed player that haven't noticed ANY framedrop besides the pre-play area. You are truly blessed.

Good on the "saying someone is lying". So you are going to try to write in a specific way so it doesn't have a counter claim? Ok.

I'm not upset at all. My claim is not on you not having as bad a time as others, is that you being the solely to not have a bad time at all.



duduspace11 "Well, since we are estimating costs, Pokemon Red/Blue did cost Nintendo about $50m to make back in 1996"

http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=8808363

Mr Puggsly: "Hehe, I said good profit. You said big profit. Frankly, not losing money is what I meant by good. Don't get hung up on semantics"

http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=9008994

Azzanation: "PS5 wouldn't sold out at launch without scalpers."

And that’s perfectly fine. Feel free to dismiss the game and have opinions on it without having played it. That’s normal. I just bought a Switch, because I like to own all consoles. I don’t need to play Sine Mora EX to know it’s not my type of game and that I wouldn’t enjoy it. Just like I don’t need to play GTS to know since it has a neutered upgrade system and no real traditional GT career mode and is extremely online focused, I wouldn’t get enough use out of it to warrant a purchase.

Where you differ though and where you fuck up is you go a step beyond that and not only form an opinion about how PUBG should play based entirely on videos of other people playing and impressions from other people playing, and you’re saying people who don’t mesh with the experience that suits your narrative are not being honest. Don’t try to act as if having an opinion on a game and calling people liars for not sharing your view on a game are remotely close to the same thing.

Personally I don’t really see how it’s against forum rules to call someone a fanboy yet it’s fine for you to say multiple people are liars just because of some stupid console warz agenda you have.

By the way, friend, I’m still waiting on that link to a post where I say someone is a liar because of their GTS experience LOL.



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LudicrousSpeed said:
And that’s perfectly fine. Feel free to dismiss the game and have opinions on it without having played it. That’s normal. I just bought a Switch, because I like to own all consoles. I don’t need to play Sine Mora EX to know it’s not my type of game and that I wouldn’t enjoy it. Just like I don’t need to play GTS to know since it has a neutered upgrade system and no real traditional GT career mode and is extremely online focused, I wouldn’t get enough use out of it to warrant a purchase.

Where you differ though and where you fuck up is you go a step beyond that and not only form an opinion about how PUBG should play based entirely on videos of other people playing and impressions from other people playing, and you’re saying people who don’t mesh with the experience that suits your narrative are not being honest. Don’t try to act as if having an opinion on a game and calling people liars for not sharing your view on a game are remotely close to the same thing.

Personally I don’t really see how it’s against forum rules to call someone a fanboy yet it’s fine for you to say multiple people are liars just because of some stupid console warz agenda you have.

By the way, friend, I’m still waiting on that link to a post where I say someone is a liar because of their GTS experience LOL.

Neutered? Never heard that word. Is this about the upgrade system being a 3-4 tier upgrade for power and weight with percentage that you claim (and it looks like it) a mobile game system? I believe that was answered on that thread about it being kinda irrelevant because on the MP (that is the focus) there being automatic BP balance and locked out settings to make everyone race on same condition and not allow for tweaking and adjustment (which for the FIA championship is kinda mistake since being able to set up a car is part of competition, although for professionals usually the engineers do the set up and pilot test it and say the aspect of driving he need adjustment or the telemetric or whatever the name in english tells the issues).

Also I have no issue with you not wanting to buy GTS, a lot of previous players didn't want to buy because of the change of focus. But still it was advised it would be like this about a couple years prior and we also can't be sure (but is likely) that the SP campaign added bridge some of the gap.

Errr my English isn't the best, and I'm aware of it, but "how PUBG should play" wouldn't me setting the standards or expectations instead of observing how it's playing? And there is a difference between opinions and facts. As I said, on opinion level the idea of the game is great (not suited for me, but great. Same as I don't like Halo as a game because it isn't my type of game, but I accept it as one of the best shooters out there almost every single entry), I'm discussing the factual that everyone but you in here and on the comments pulled from outside VGC had some type of frame issues even outside of the pre-session. So as I said before if you said "I didn't notice a drop" or "the drop didn't bother me" I would hold zero issue with it since most drops in framerate doesn't bother me and some I don't notice. But your phrasing was more on line of they not existing and that is where I put you potentially lying about it.

Well you may discuss the forum rules with the mods, I personally don't mind anyone calling me a fanboy (because I do favor Sony), wouldn't mind anyone calling me a hater (although I don't hate MS or Nintendo, I'm either not interested in several of their offers, what is good not sufficing to pull me to them with my limited time although I own all platforms within time - MS and Nintendo usually with one gen gap). But the rules weren't made by me, still have to follow. If you think saying you are lying (and there is a difference between saying someone is saying a lie and calling him a liar). While at it, you won't ever stop pretending you are neutral and not doing console war and favoring MS?

I didn't claim you said anyone on GTS thread was lying, and even answered you before on this, that you phrased it in a way to not have evidence instead of all your posts made there without any experience but criticizing verification based on evidence here because some haven't played. A similar behavior to an acquaintance on another place that loves to put up links of news and when we give a general criticism or refute to the link he will throw a bravado about we not having read the link, and after we read and reiterate because it was basically what one already would expect being posted by him and looking the source and title and then he would drop the discussion on that post until the new link. Because I'm pretty certain that if I go and play it and see the bugs while playing (even if they are already evidenced by other posters you would disqualify the opinion.



duduspace11 "Well, since we are estimating costs, Pokemon Red/Blue did cost Nintendo about $50m to make back in 1996"

http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=8808363

Mr Puggsly: "Hehe, I said good profit. You said big profit. Frankly, not losing money is what I meant by good. Don't get hung up on semantics"

http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=9008994

Azzanation: "PS5 wouldn't sold out at launch without scalpers."

Game is still in ea over on Steam. Decided to reinstall the game and give it another shot, since the last time I played it was months ago.

Managed to stay at 70-80 fps across the map for the majority of the match, but died within the last 30 players. I was ended by 3 players, who apparently joined forces, yet the match was on a free for all mode.

I don't mind the squad based mode, because it means you have to join up as a team, but I dislike teaming up in the free for all mode, mostly because in the end, those that team up will eventually have to turn on one another.



Step right up come on in, feel the buzz in your veins, I'm like an chemical electrical right into your brain and I'm the one who killed the Radio, soon you'll all see

So pay up motherfuckers you belong to "V"

Chazore said:
Game is still in ea over on Steam. Decided to reinstall the game and give it another shot, since the last time I played it was months ago.

Managed to stay at 70-80 fps across the map for the majority of the match, but died within the last 30 players. I was ended by 3 players, who apparently joined forces, yet the match was on a free for all mode.

I don't mind the squad based mode, because it means you have to join up as a team, but I dislike teaming up in the free for all mode, mostly because in the end, those that team up will eventually have to turn on one another.

That is likely to happen even on real life... countries that should all be in a war for themselves decide to unite to destroy one enemy and then battle each other... it also happens in a lot of board games when the other players see one as dominant.



duduspace11 "Well, since we are estimating costs, Pokemon Red/Blue did cost Nintendo about $50m to make back in 1996"

http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=8808363

Mr Puggsly: "Hehe, I said good profit. You said big profit. Frankly, not losing money is what I meant by good. Don't get hung up on semantics"

http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=9008994

Azzanation: "PS5 wouldn't sold out at launch without scalpers."

DonFerrari said:

That is likely to happen even on real life... countries that should all be in a war for themselves decide to unite to destroy one enemy and then battle each other... it also happens in a lot of board games when the other players see one as dominant.

I'm aware of that, but if you want to take an easier road to victory, you're far better off joining the squad game mode instead, where your chances of being back stabbed are nullified (unless you have a random troll on your team).



Step right up come on in, feel the buzz in your veins, I'm like an chemical electrical right into your brain and I'm the one who killed the Radio, soon you'll all see

So pay up motherfuckers you belong to "V"

SWORDF1SH said:

PUGB has severe fps and texture issues on both the One and X.

It begs the question, should a company be charging for a poorly optimized and unfinished game?

 

What kind of question is this?? The game is part of the Xbox preview program. Your are pretty much paying to beta test this game until they eventually release a final product. 

I like how the OP doesn't mention anything about the preview program or that it has the label "GAME PREVIEW EDITION". 

The games performance and optimization are expected to come over time but people are still having a blast playing this game on Xbox one. This version of the game is meant for players that prefer a console experience over PC. Personally, I'd rather play this janky version over the holiday then wait for the final version which no body knows when it will come out. At the very least it's not having the massive connection issue that plague the Halo: Master chief collection. 

Don't get me wrong I'm not satisfy with the version that was release on Xbox one and expected much more from Microsoft & Bluehole. At the very least you would of expected better console map for the controller and a lock 30 fps during game play.  But, I'm still having a fun playing the game(on Xbox one S), even my friend that playing on the OG Xbox one is also great time (he did lose connection twice in a 5-6 hours play through). 

I don't plan on ever going back to PC gaming and look forward to the future updates that will certainly fix many of the current issues that we're having. This game regardless of all technical issues will be a phenomenon on Consoles like it was on PC. Especially, when it eventually make it's way on PS4.