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Forums - Gaming Discussion - "The Nintendo Switch Is Selling Exactly As Fast As Sony's PS4" - Forbes

 

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Yes, Switch will KILL the PS4! 18 12.95%
 
No, PS4 will remain champion! 74 53.24%
 
Hard to tell right now, time will only tell. 47 33.81%
 
Total:139

they need to keep the steam of nintendo switch and i honestly think that they will release pokemon 8th gen next year for that. After the second christmas i think the sales will fizzle out a bit. in the end ps4 will still sell marginally better than switch... unless sony rush their ps5 if ps4 sales plummet next year which i doubt



 

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The plan to increase production by 6 million units in the three months to the end of March 2018.

https://www.j-cast.com/kaisha/2017/12/16316743.html



DonFerrari said:

During the first 6 months of both consoles mentioned there was no level of certainty that one would go 100M and the other 15M.

Current Switch sales data is insufficient to say it won't sell less than 50M, it is quite improbable, but not impossible yet.

Disagree the were signs one was the fastest selling products the other one of the slowest to date, early momentum and market situation is a good indicator of what lies ahead, Wii was selling high numbers to new gamers outselling the 360 in 10 months while Wii U was selling low numbers and people didn't know a new console was even out. For Switch the is no other portable device for the 70m 3ds owners and 14m Vita owners to go to for portable gaming the biggest hurdle was the price and Switch brushed that aside, that alone along with the momentum the platform has adds certainty to reaching 50m.

This is before we get to the likes of IPs like Pokemon, AC, Tomodachi and such, Switch also has better support than 3DS and Wii U did as well all the while the platform is still having issues meeting demand 9 months in despite reaching 10m units a week ago.



NPCmates said:
HoangNhatAnh said:

Yeah 80 or 100 million doesn't change the fact Nintendo is king in handheld. Thank you for confirm psp number. And you know DS is 154 million so none can stop Nintendo in handheld unless you want to mention smart phone?

Just commented on another guys saying smart phones really fucked the handheld console market also if you notice DS did 150mil but then 3DS did around 70mil and DS hit big with nostalgia, price point not to mention brain age and nintendogs it just seems like Nintendo fans are dipping or getting older and moving on and unless they hit with a gimmick casual crowd leave and Hardcore just go to another console or PC.

So you are saying Switch is selling to casual or something? If so then LOL

Last edited by HoangNhatAnh - on 16 December 2017

SpokenTruth said:
DonFerrari said:

They don't need, still they release TLOU and GT6 at the very end of the PS3 life and start of PS4. That isn't what Nintendo usually do with their major IPs.

Wii major ips got dropped before the yearly sales were even below what would probably be the peaks of GC. And considering games would have between 2-3 years of dev time, if they aren't releasing games after the 4th year of the console, then they shifted the dev to the next console while still on the middle of the current gen.

N64 Year 4 (1999):
Super Smash Brothers
Pokemon Snap
Mario Golf
Jet Force Gemini
Donkey Kong 64

N64 year 5 (2000):
Excitebike 64
Perfect Dark
Kirby 64
Mario Tennis
Pokemon Puzzle League
Legend of Zelda: Majora's Mask
Hey You Pikachu
Banjo-Tooie

N64 year 6 (2001 - year the GC launched):
Paper Mario
Conker's Bad Fur Day
Pokemon Stadium 2
Dr Mario 64
Mario Party 3

GC year 4 (2004):
Pokemon Colosseum
WarioWare Inc
Custom Robo
LoZ: Four Swords
Pokemon Box: Ruby and Sapphire
Pikmin 2
Donkey Konga
Paper Mario: The Thousand Year Door
Mario Power Tennis
Metroid Prime 2
Mario Party 6

GC year 5 (2005):
Star Fox: Assault
Donkey Kong Jungle Beat
Donkey Konga 2
Geist
Mario Superstar Baseball
Battalion Wars
Pokemon XD: Gale of Darkness
Fire Emblem: Path of Radiance
Mario Party 7
Super Mario Strikers

GC year 6 (2006 - year the Wii launched):
Chibi-Robo
Odama
LoZ: Twilight Princess

Wii year 4 (2009):
ExciteBots: Trick Racing
Punch-Out!!
Wii Sports Resort
Metroid Prime Trilogy
Wii Fit Plus
ExciteBike: World Rally
New Super Mario Bros Wii
Pokemon Rumble

Wii year 5 (2010):
Super Mario Galaxy 2
Sin & Punishment: Star Successor
Metroid: Other M
Wii Party
Kirby's Epic Yarn
PokePark Wii
Donkey Kong Country Returns
Super Mario All-Stars: 25th Anniversary Edition

Wii year 6 (2011):
Mario Sports Mix
Wii Play: Motion
Kirby's Return to Dream Land
LoZ: Skyward Sword
Fortune Street

Wii year 6 (2012 - year the Wii U launched):
Rhythm Heaven Fever
PokePark 2
Mario Party 9
Xenoblade Chronicles
Project Zero 2
The Last Story
Kirby's Dream Collection

Does not include Virtual Console or New Play Control releases.

But please, tell me again how they don't support their console after the 4th year.

Please add Pandora's Tower for Wii 



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Wyrdness said:
DonFerrari said:

During the first 6 months of both consoles mentioned there was no level of certainty that one would go 100M and the other 15M.

Current Switch sales data is insufficient to say it won't sell less than 50M, it is quite improbable, but not impossible yet.

Disagree the were signs one was the fastest selling products the other one of the slowest to date, early momentum and market situation is a good indicator of what lies ahead, Wii was selling high numbers to new gamers outselling the 360 in 10 months while Wii U was selling low numbers and people didn't know a new console was even out. For Switch the is no other portable device for the 70m 3ds owners and 14m Vita owners to go to for portable gaming the biggest hurdle was the price and Switch brushed that aside, that alone along with the momentum the platform has adds certainty to reaching 50m.

This is before we get to the likes of IPs like Pokemon, AC, Tomodachi and such, Switch also has better support than 3DS and Wii U did as well all the while the platform is still having issues meeting demand 9 months in despite reaching 10m units a week ago.

That is why I said it isn't certain but it's very very very unlikely that Switch do lower than 50M



duduspace11 "Well, since we are estimating costs, Pokemon Red/Blue did cost Nintendo about $50m to make back in 1996"

http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=8808363

Mr Puggsly: "Hehe, I said good profit. You said big profit. Frankly, not losing money is what I meant by good. Don't get hung up on semantics"

http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=9008994

Azzanation: "PS5 wouldn't sold out at launch without scalpers."

StreaK said:
Barkley said:
We'll know if it's going to keep up or not by June, 1st half of 2018 is going to be a real test for the Switch.

Yeah, exactly. Man who would have predicted this? But then again, Xbox One did alright in its first 12 months.

No it didn't. Actually, if you check out sales and/or shipments for consoles on Wikipedia (you can also get some on the Video Game Sales Wiki), consoles' performances in their first year are usually a pretty good indication of how things will go for at least the following 2-3 years. Some consoles have experienced a significant change in sales later on (PS3 picked up, Wii fell off a cliff), but it takes a while for the market to respond. Probably the closest we've come to a console's sales changing early on was the DS, which got a big boost from the release of the DS Lite, but it was still doing reasonably well before that.

As for this Switch vs. PS4 thing, all I know is that Nintendo are planning to ship at least 25m Switches next financial year, which would be more than the PS4's biggest year was. That doesn't guarantee sales, of course, but it does give reason to be optimistic about what Nintendo are capable of.



atomicblue said:
StreaK said:

Yeah, exactly. Man who would have predicted this? But then again, Xbox One did alright in its first 12 months.

No it didn't. Actually, if you check out sales and/or shipments for consoles on Wikipedia (you can also get some on the Video Game Sales Wiki), consoles' performances in their first year are usually a pretty good indication of how things will go for at least the following 2-3 years. Some consoles have experienced a significant change in sales later on (PS3 picked up, Wii fell off a cliff), but it takes a while for the market to respond. Probably the closest we've come to a console's sales changing early on was the DS, which got a big boost from the release of the DS Lite, but it was still doing reasonably well before that.

As for this Switch vs. PS4 thing, all I know is that Nintendo are planning to ship at least 25m Switches next financial year, which would be more than the PS4's biggest year was. That doesn't guarantee sales, of course, but it does give reason to be optimistic about what Nintendo are capable of.

This a rumor. i'm not seeing how they can even sell 17 million next year let alone 25



mZuzek said:
quickrick said:

This a rumor. i'm not seeing how they can even sell 17 million next year let alone 25

They're about to sell probably around 15-16 million this year so 17 million next year sounds quite likely. I think up to 20 million is still quite plausible, though 25 million does sound quite crazy especially if Pokémon isn't coming yet.

20M is quite a good mark as well.



duduspace11 "Well, since we are estimating costs, Pokemon Red/Blue did cost Nintendo about $50m to make back in 1996"

http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=8808363

Mr Puggsly: "Hehe, I said good profit. You said big profit. Frankly, not losing money is what I meant by good. Don't get hung up on semantics"

http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=9008994

Azzanation: "PS5 wouldn't sold out at launch without scalpers."

mZuzek said:
quickrick said:

This a rumor. i'm not seeing how they can even sell 17 million next year let alone 25

They're about to sell probably around 15-16 million this year so 17 million next year sounds quite likely. I think up to 20 million is still quite plausible, though 25 million does sound quite crazy especially if Pokémon isn't coming yet.

there at 10 million by december 10. there numbers will look much better this year because they got a huge launch boost, and a fully stocked holiday