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Star Wars Episode VIII: The Last Jedi - 85 Meta (49 Critics) - 93% Rotten (169 Critics)

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mZuzek said:
shikamaru317 said:
2nd highest rated Star Wars movie after a New Hope

You see, this is exactly my point. This is why you don't trust movie critics. A New Hope being the highest rated is just... no. I mean, it is a fine movie, certainly one of the best Star Wars films out there, but to say it's better than Empire is simply insane.

Yeah, not really sure why A New Hope is higher than Empire Strikes Back on Metacritic, it's my least favorite of the original trilogy personally. 

As for the scores overall, trusting critics can be misleading, but I have heard good things from non-critics that attended the premiere, one of them even said it was better than Empire Strikes Back, so I am cautiously optimistic. At the very least it won't be bad like say AOTC. TFA, for all it's issues with sticking to formula too much, was at least a solid 8/10 movie imo, and TLJ is getting even better reviews than TFA did, 86 on meta vs 81 for TFA. 



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Nothing can be worse than the prequels. TFA was a decent film, it just played safe with a formulatic script.

But it seems Rian Johnson took some risk with the plot of this one.



Birimbau said:
Disney are the Gods of entertaiment.

They seem to be buying their way to that title, yeah.



Minus 20 fanboy bonus... minus 10 star wars hype.. minus 10 hollywood charade... aw-man.. its even worse than the prequels?



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mZuzek said:
StreaK said:
Screw Star Wars. It's amazing just how much I do not care for this franchise. And I don't feel bad not feeling nostalgia towards it.

I just can't wait for the 4 Avatar sequels that will debut in 2020. THEN I will get excited!

Oh wow, congratulations on having an opinion. It's genuinely impressive just how little you care, I've never seen someone care about something so little that they even come to a thread about it to talk about how much they don't care.

Edit: also word of advice, don't be too excited about Avatar sequels. They have loads of sucking potential.

I know I know, I just had to point it out because Star Wars is in my face everywhere and I just don't know how to care. I can't avoid it. Everyone loves it to death and I look at it like "what's the big deal?" In a way, I guess I kinda envy them and their excitement. I just can't wait until mine.

Yeah, of course they COPULD suck...but I'd say there's more chance of them being amazing seeing as how Cameron doesn't know how to make a BAD sequel. Aliens and Terminator 2 come to mind (but that's another topic.)

Anyway, it's going to just blow my mind if this movie like the previous one breaks 200 million opening weekend....these people are nuts!!! O_O



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shikamaru317 said:
StreaK said:
Screw Star Wars. It's amazing just how much I do not care for this franchise. And I don't feel bad not feeling nostalgia towards it.

I just can't wait for the 4 Avatar sequels that will debut in 2020. THEN I will get excited!

You like Avatar and hate Star Wars? You are officially dead to me, lol.

Ouch! Do I deserve that??? :(

But yeah, Avatar is one of my favourite films of all-time! There was chemistry between the two leads and I just dig that sort of thing. I love how everything came together...and the "I see You" moment at the end was absolutely memorable and original to me. I guess to me Avatar appeals to me because it's more beautiful to look at with all the nature and everything - I'm a sucker for nature and the earth! Sure Avatar can be seen as a space sci-fi but it's different than the way Star Wars is a space saga. I don't know, to me Avatar isn't as geeky or gimmicky (nudge*lightsabers*nudge.)



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StreaK said:
mZuzek said:

Oh wow, congratulations on having an opinion. It's genuinely impressive just how little you care, I've never seen someone care about something so little that they even come to a thread about it to talk about how much they don't care.

Edit: also word of advice, don't be too excited about Avatar sequels. They have loads of sucking potential.

I know I know, I just had to point it out because Star Wars is in my face everywhere and I just don't know how to care. I can't avoid it. Everyone loves it to death and I look at it like "what's the big deal?" In a way, I guess I kinda envy them and their excitement. I just can't wait until mine.

Yeah, of course they COULD suck...but I'd say there's more chance of them being amazing seeing as how Cameron doesn't know how to make a BAD sequel. Aliens and Terminator 2 come to mind (but that's another topic.)

Anyway, it's going to just blow my mind if this movie like the previous one breaks 200 million opening weekend....these people are nuts!!! O_O

Eh. I haven't watched Terminator 2 but I found Aliens to be highly overrated - I mean, it's a great movie alright, but nowhere near the level of the first one, which to be fair was a masterpiece. I just found Aliens to be too generic, it felt too much like your average Hollywood movie, and I think the same of Titanic and Avatar. All movies I liked, but all of which I think are just too cookie-cutter (Aliens definitely the best out of them though, and Avatar definitely the worst).

If it helps your envy though, I don't really love Star Wars either. I just like it, there's a few movies I really love, but for the most part I'm not a huge fan and I think most people feel the same.



Ok. But I'm not going to watch it.

It's just the newest cashcow from Disney (and EA) to make some good money on the back of one of the belovest franchise. And it being everywhere, TV,Internet,etc .... has a lot to do with the publicity behind it. They expect you to go see it and then probably buy your next smartphone with Bell because you saw a sick looking Star Wars publicity poster with the compagny's name on it. Then a little work of association later and POUF ! You've just been milked by our capitalist society.

Still, it might be decent, but I guess like TFA, a lot of bias due to the initial hype.



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I wonder how much of the Force Awakens hate is genuine and how much of it is just "It's popular so it sucks" bandwagoning. I genuinely enjoyed it and Rogue One. Maybe not quite as much at any of the original trilogy movies, but they're still leaps and bounds better than the prequels. Phantom Menace will always be the weakest of the Star Wars movies, and was the only one where I walked out of the theater less than impressed.



Shadow1980 said:
I wonder how much of the Force Awakens hate is genuine and how much of it is just "It's popular so it sucks" bandwagoning. I genuinely enjoyed it and Rogue One. Maybe not quite as much at any of the original trilogy movies, but they're still leaps and bounds better than the prequels. Phantom Menace will always be the weakest of the Star Wars movies, and was the only one where I walked out of the theater less than impressed.

I personally don't think TFA, Rogue One, or the prequels are as bad as people on the internet like to say they are.  TFA and Rogue One are solid 8's, and even the worst of the prequels is a 7/10 imo. I guess people just had too high of expectations for TFA and Rogue One, though why they would after the prequels I don't really know. Recapturing the magic of the original trilogy is quite difficult, so expecting that magic for these new movies is a mistake for sure. If episode 8 captures that same magic as the original trilogy that'll be great, but if you go in on Friday expecting it, you only have yourself to blame if the movie ends up disappointing you.