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HoangNhatAnh said:

Yeah, I want Horizon Zero Dawn and Uncharted 4 in 4k/60fps. When will it happen?

Oh you want 4K 60fps gaming? Then you most definitely need to stay away from the Switch



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HoangNhatAnh said:

Ps4 at launch is 300$? That's new to me

People TODAY don't go into a store to see a PS4 LAUNCH price, they have a choice in this case between a Switch and a more powerful PS4 and the more powerful system is equal if not cheaper than the other system, that was my point and you know it. Nice try.



CrazyGamer2017 said:
HoangNhatAnh said:

Yeah, I want Horizon Zero Dawn and Uncharted 4 in 4k/60fps. When will it happen?

Oh you want 4K 60fps gaming? Then you most definitely need to stay away from the Switch

The point is that you criticize Switch for lack of power, while your beloved PS4 is grossly underpowered as well (even the Pro is a mid-range system at best). It makes you look silly.



Chrizum said:
CrazyGamer2017 said:

Oh you want 4K 60fps gaming? Then you most definitely need to stay away from the Switch

The point is that you criticize Switch for lack of power, while your beloved PS4 is grossly underpowered as well (even the Pro is a mid-range system at best). It makes you look silly.

I tried to be reasonable when speaking of the Switch, always making clear what I was saying, always specifying that it was from my opinion, point of view, always making clear that I saw it from the point of view of someone preferring to play at home rather than on the go etc.

But you just demonstrated that it's impossible to be reasonable with guys like you. At the first sign of people turning their back, BAM, insults and totally ridiculous assessments. Ok mild insults but still I never called you silly for having a Switch. And yeah sure now the Pro is GROSSLY underpowered, what a very sophisticated analysis of the Pro. I can feel the objectivity in your words. congrats!

So here is the deal: if you can't take criticism then perhaps you should stay away from places where people can exchange opinions like forums. And if you want to take your gloves off in this debate, I'm fine with that but you wouldn't like what I have to say about the Switch. Honestly and deep inside I wouldn't like it either cause I am a person that tries to be objective and reasonable always trying to understand the other side but that is again in this thread proven impossible with fan...atics of a system (any system, mind you)

 



CrazyGamer2017 said:
Chrizum said:

The point is that you criticize Switch for lack of power, while your beloved PS4 is grossly underpowered as well (even the Pro is a mid-range system at best). It makes you look silly.

I tried to be reasonable when speaking of the Switch, always making clear what I was saying, always specifying that it was from my opinion, point of view, always making clear that I saw it from the point of view of someone preferring to play at home rather than on the go etc.

But you just demonstrated that it's impossible to be reasonable with guys like you. At the first sign of people turning their back, BAM, insults and totally ridiculous assessments. Ok mild insults but still I never called you silly for having a Switch. And yeah sure now the Pro is GROSSLY underpowered, what a very sophisticated analysis of the Pro. I can feel the objectivity in your words. congrats!

So here is the deal: if you can't take criticism then perhaps you should stay away from places where people can exchange opinions like forums. And if you want to take your gloves off in this debate, I'm fine with that but you wouldn't like what I have to say about the Switch. Honestly and deep inside I wouldn't like it either cause I am a person that tries to be objective and reasonable always trying to understand the other side but that is again in this thread proven impossible with fan...atics of a system (any system, mind you)

 

I don't know why you react so emotionally all of a sudden. In earlier replies I told you I respected your honest replies and I never insulted you. You blame me for not being able to take criticism but it now it seems you should practice what you preach.

For the record, I'm not annoyed, insulted or offended in any way, I'm just trying to have a level-headed discussion with you. Also: I am a happy owner of a PS4 and do not plan on buying a Switch (although I do enjoy Nintendo games).

Yet it is a fact that the PS4, even at launch, was a system of moderate power and now, 4 years later, it obviously is grossly underpowered. That is not a slight on the system, like I said, I am a happy PS4 owner and games look terrific on it. But Switch games look beautiful as well. If you can't enjoy Switch because you value graphics so much, I just can't see how you could be happy with PS4's relatively low resolution and framerate ... most games are 30fps on PS4 (which doesn't bother me), so why attack Switch where most Nintendo games are 60fps? I'm not criticizing you or the PS4, I just can't understand it, that is all.



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CrazyGamer2017 said:
HoangNhatAnh said:

Yeah, I want Horizon Zero Dawn and Uncharted 4 in 4k/60fps. When will it happen?

Oh you want 4K 60fps gaming? Then you most definitely need to stay away from the Switch

Oh you want 4K 60fps gaming? Then you most definitely need to stay away from the Switch, PS4, PS4 Pro, Xbox One and Xbox One X and get a high end PC instead

I'm sure that is what you meant? :> 



Congrats to Nintendo, the Switch deserves to be successful.



Chrizum said:

I don't know why you react so emotionally all of a sudden. In earlier replies I told you I respected your honest replies and I never insulted you. You blame me for not being able to take criticism but it now it seems you should practice what you preach.

For the record, I'm not annoyed, insulted or offended in any way, I'm just trying to have a level-headed discussion with you. Also: I am a happy owner of a PS4 and do not plan on buying a Switch (although I do enjoy Nintendo games).

Yet it is a fact that the PS4, even at launch, was a system of moderate power and now, 4 years later, it obviously is grossly underpowered. That is not a slight on the system, like I said, I am a happy PS4 owner and games look terrific on it. But Switch games look beautiful as well. If you can't enjoy Switch because you value graphics so much, I just can't see how you could be happy with PS4's relatively low resolution and framerate ... most games are 30fps on PS4 (which doesn't bother me), so why attack Switch where most Nintendo games are 60fps? I'm not criticizing you or the PS4, I just can't understand it, that is all.

I reacted because I have been as cautious as possible across a ton of posts on this thread to be as diplomatic as possible when trying to make my point, simply saying that I feel bad cause I wished Nintendo had made a dedicated home system. Not sure why people feel that I can't wish for a dedicated home system to play game like BOTW but anyway, my point being that I have been diplomatic about it at least as much as possible.

Then you suddenly out of nowhere decided to attack me, call me silly all of a sudden and try to attack me by calling the Pro not just underpowered but GROSSLY underpowered... Which is fine if you feel that way, but here in this context and out of nowhere I suddenly became an idiot (silly meaning idiot) that is too dumb to buy a Switch and instead buys a grossly underpowered PS4 Pro...

I don't mind criticism when in context and reasonable, but calling the most powerful console EVER built and since November 7 the second most powerful console ever built grossly underpowered and adding on top that I'm an idiot for choosing it. You'll have to forgive me but after our exchanges of opinion which have been really nice and reasonable, I am like: where does that aggression even come from?

Now I am not unreasonable and unlike some I don't mind criticism of a system and if you wish to speak of the Pro, I'm totally fine with it but next time, I don't know, introduce the issue instead of suddenly and out of nowhere attack me and call me silly for my choice. Can you imagine if in my first post here I would have opened with "Hey everybody here: you guys are all silly cause you chose to buy the grossly underpowered Switch"... I think I would have been hunted down and crucified.

So yeah, if I give someone the courtesy of speaking of an issue diplomatically, shall I say? I expect the same in return. If I open up attacking you or someone else then you may attack back, I won't complain but waving a white flag and getting shot in return, well sorry but I wasn't expecting it I guess.



Mbolibombo said:
CrazyGamer2017 said:

Oh you want 4K 60fps gaming? Then you most definitely need to stay away from the Switch

Oh you want 4K 60fps gaming? Then you most definitely need to stay away from the Switch, PS4, PS4 Pro, Xbox One and Xbox One X and get a high end PC instead

I'm sure that is what you meant? :> 

For the full experience, no compromises considering today's hardware? I think you are right and I agree with you



CrazyGamer2017 said:
Chrizum said:

I don't know why you react so emotionally all of a sudden. In earlier replies I told you I respected your honest replies and I never insulted you. You blame me for not being able to take criticism but it now it seems you should practice what you preach.

For the record, I'm not annoyed, insulted or offended in any way, I'm just trying to have a level-headed discussion with you. Also: I am a happy owner of a PS4 and do not plan on buying a Switch (although I do enjoy Nintendo games).

Yet it is a fact that the PS4, even at launch, was a system of moderate power and now, 4 years later, it obviously is grossly underpowered. That is not a slight on the system, like I said, I am a happy PS4 owner and games look terrific on it. But Switch games look beautiful as well. If you can't enjoy Switch because you value graphics so much, I just can't see how you could be happy with PS4's relatively low resolution and framerate ... most games are 30fps on PS4 (which doesn't bother me), so why attack Switch where most Nintendo games are 60fps? I'm not criticizing you or the PS4, I just can't understand it, that is all.

I reacted because I have been as cautious as possible across a ton of posts on this thread to be as diplomatic as possible when trying to make my point, simply saying that I feel bad cause I wished Nintendo had made a dedicated home system. Not sure why people feel that I can't wish for a dedicated home system to play game like BOTW but anyway, my point being that I have been diplomatic about it at least as much as possible.

Then you suddenly out of nowhere decided to attack me, call me silly all of a sudden and try to attack me by calling the Pro not just underpowered but GROSSLY underpowered... Which is fine if you feel that way, but here in this context and out of nowhere I suddenly became an idiot (silly meaning idiot) that is too dumb to buy a Switch and instead buys a grossly underpowered PS4 Pro...

I don't mind criticism when in context and reasonable, but calling the most powerful console EVER built and since November 7 the second most powerful console ever built grossly underpowered and adding on top that I'm an idiot for choosing it. You'll have to forgive me but after our exchanges of opinion which have been really nice and reasonable, I am like: where does that aggression even come from?

Now I am not unreasonable and unlike some I don't mind criticism of a system and if you wish to speak of the Pro, I'm totally fine with it but next time, I don't know, introduce the issue instead of suddenly and out of nowhere attack me and call me silly for my choice. Can you imagine if in my first post here I would have opened with "Hey everybody here: you guys are all silly cause you chose to buy the grossly underpowered Switch"... I think I would have been hunted down and crucified.

So yeah, if I give someone the courtesy of speaking of an issue diplomatically, shall I say? I expect the same in return. If I open up attacking you or someone else then you may attack back, I won't complain but waving a white flag and getting shot in return, well sorry but I wasn't expecting it I guess.

I didn't mean to insult you. I never called you dumb, I said that criticizing Switch's lack of power (you mentioned 900p 30fps) made you look silly because PS4 barely does it any better. Like I said, I think it's a silly argument.

I don't think many PS4 fans would call the PS4 a powerhouse of a console, it never was... That's why it's always been affordable, unlike the PS3 which was much more powerful at the time. I guess what I'm trying to say is, if you value power and graphics so much, what the hell are you doing with a PS4?