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irstupid said:
monocle_layton said:

This is a dangerous bill. Concerned robbery will increase.

 

It's just surprising to see the bill passed. Will shops with bulletproof glass be forced to remove it?

Yea the bill is just dumb. I read some article that seemed to be defending this bill or the lady for some reason. About how she shouldn't be held accountable for any future murders at those places.  

The ladies comments were all about the Stop and Go's being basically bad places. You know where the stores were selling drugs in the store, or they were selling crack bongs, or cough medicine (you know ingredients to make drugs) ect. She wanted them to become better places that sold like food or had restuarants or some such. You know the whole you make the atmosphere better the place becomes safer.

Makes complete sense. What doesn't make any sense though is removing the bullet proof glass first. There is no need to force/tell stores to remove their bullet proof glass. At the point that the store feels safe and looks safe, removing the bullet proof glass will be what they will want to do. It is just another thing that makes the store look even safer.

I mean think of all the convenient stores you have been to in your life. There is nothing that makes one think a place is more unsafe than walking in and seeing the clerk behind bullet proof glass. Whenever I go in those stores I think "whelp, better get what I need done quick and get out of here." Stores don't want to have bullet proof glass. It's expensive and sends the a message that this place is not safe. They only have it if they need it.

The logic makes sense, but unfortunately I don't think it'll translate well in the real world.

 

Now, if this were in a nice suburb? Yeah, I'd understand. But in Philly I'd be worried about an increase in robbery and crime.



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monocle_layton said:
irstupid said:

Yea the bill is just dumb. I read some article that seemed to be defending this bill or the lady for some reason. About how she shouldn't be held accountable for any future murders at those places.  

The ladies comments were all about the Stop and Go's being basically bad places. You know where the stores were selling drugs in the store, or they were selling crack bongs, or cough medicine (you know ingredients to make drugs) ect. She wanted them to become better places that sold like food or had restuarants or some such. You know the whole you make the atmosphere better the place becomes safer.

Makes complete sense. What doesn't make any sense though is removing the bullet proof glass first. There is no need to force/tell stores to remove their bullet proof glass. At the point that the store feels safe and looks safe, removing the bullet proof glass will be what they will want to do. It is just another thing that makes the store look even safer.

I mean think of all the convenient stores you have been to in your life. There is nothing that makes one think a place is more unsafe than walking in and seeing the clerk behind bullet proof glass. Whenever I go in those stores I think "whelp, better get what I need done quick and get out of here." Stores don't want to have bullet proof glass. It's expensive and sends the a message that this place is not safe. They only have it if they need it.

The logic makes sense, but unfortunately I don't think it'll translate well in the real world.

 

Now, if this were in a nice suburb? Yeah, I'd understand. But in Philly I'd be worried about an increase in robbery and crime.

Oh no, I'm not saying removing bullet proof glass should ever be a law. I'm saying her saying that they need to stop the stores from selling cough medicine, or crack pipes and so on makes sense.

Removing those things would help the store feel safer and may in time make the store feel safe enough to remove the bullet proof glass themselves, which will in turn make the store feel even safer again.

She is doing it backwards. You don't remove the bullet proof glass first, and you never FORCE someone to remove it.



SpokenTruth said:
“hire security guards and install surveillance cameras,”

This is the suggested alternative by the councilwoman. Because apparently plexiglass suggest mistrust and a class system but security guards and cameras in a convenience store don't.

I'm just imagining a South Park city hall meeting and the audience full of security guards yelling "dey took our jobs" referencing the bullet proof windows.



I don’t see the connection between glass and race.

The real story here is that this goes to show how insane and violent the US actually is. That they actually need to have bulletproof glass everywhere speaks volumes to how much more dangerous that country is.



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Jumpin said:
I don’t see the connection between glass and race.

The real story here is that this goes to show how insane and violent the US actually is. That they actually need to have bulletproof glass everywhere speaks volumes to how much more dangerous that country is.

There isn't bullet proof glass everywhere, just in dangerous and often poor areas.

I've been to probably 200 different gas stations in my life and seen bullet proof glass in maybe two of them. And I wasn't surprised when I saw it going into those gas stations. I knew I was in not the safest area. Not the worst area mind you, smart enough to steer clear of those areas. Lets say the fringe of the super bad areas.

You have to realize how HUGE the U.S. is. Like surface area, 99% of the country is insanely safe, and we all know where those 1% areas are.



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StarOcean said:
World gone mad: People want a pedophile as their senator

That made me lol because it was random.

But if Moore wins its because dems run shitty candidates. Also, Philly is putty people in danger for some sort of social justice. This is why people are losing trust in the left and why a guyblike Trump won.



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Mr Puggsly said:
StarOcean said:
World gone mad: People want a pedophile as their senator

That made me lol because it was random.

But if Moore wins its because dems run shitty candidates. Also, Philly is putty people in danger for some sort of social justice. This is why people are losing trust in the left and why a guyblike Trump won.

Are you telling me you'll take someone who's potentially a sexual criminal over a bad candidate? Jesus



monocle_layton said:
Mr Puggsly said:

That made me lol because it was random.

But if Moore wins its because dems run shitty candidates. Also, Philly is putty people in danger for some sort of social justice. This is why people are losing trust in the left and why a guyblike Trump won.

Are you telling me you'll take someone who's potentially a sexual criminal over a bad candidate? Jesus

Potentially? So guilty until proven innocent?

OT, so the bill actually passed? So much for "this will never pass".



Then black folks in poor hoods should be forced to remove any metal bars over their home windows too...or have them be made of cardboard. If the ordinance passes, I hope all the hood stores close up and leave those areas with no stores at all. Then folks might vote those obvious morons out who decided safety is a racist concept.



monocle_layton said:
Mr Puggsly said:

That made me lol because it was random.

But if Moore wins its because dems run shitty candidates. Also, Philly is putty people in danger for some sort of social justice. This is why people are losing trust in the left and why a guyblike Trump won.

Are you telling me you'll take someone who's potentially a sexual criminal over a bad candidate? Jesus

If you support Trump then you want a republican in there. Also, the dem candidate is simply out of touch from my understanding.

If the options are so partisan then people will vote in their interest over character, or not at all. Not saying this is a good thing but its where we are.



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