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Forums - Sales Discussion - November 2017 NPD Thread! PS4 > XBO > Switch

zorg1000 said:
Pillertriller said:

Mario, Zelda, Splatoon, Mk and xenoblades only pokemon is missing

You literally know nothing about Nintendo software

I propably know more than you about it, but i do not hype all the games like you. Nintendos big hits are splatoon, mario ( in all variants with luigi )  zelda, pokemon and metroid. I do not call animal crossing or pikmin or kid icarus or whatever big hits, or titles  a lot of people would buy a switch for. Like i said i know more than you. One of my best friends is chief of nintendo here in switzerland. I know some facts. But of course you are offended cause Nintendo lost big times in November. Sorry brah



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cosmic_drift said:
I don't see what the big fuss is about. Even if these numbers were true to form all it does is debunk the notion that the Switch will perform at Wii (or even PS4) levels

I know you're trying to go for a neutral and objective comment, but the tail end of it kind of ruins it. Again, the PS4's first post-launch NPD was only 61k above Switch's first NPD. And while I don't necessarily think that the Switch will go near PS4 levels(PS4 will be the 2nd best selling home console of all time after all), I don't think this would "debunk" it going near Wii levels. If anything, if we're to do this flat analysis with no context whatsoever that leads to the conclusion that Switch can't come close to Wii or PS4, than we can come to the reverse conclusion using the same lack of context. The Switch would be more likely to be near Wii or PS4 levels because it's so close to them. I know that's an exaggeration, but again that's just taking these numbers in with no context, which could be used to skew the narrative positively or negatively. In this thread, it seems to be more so the latter than the former.

All this really tells us taking context into account is that A ) The PS4 closed the gap Switch was building since it's March release(Switch had like 500k more sales than PS4 in the U.S. after March 3rd) and B ) That better deals get more sales.



reviniente said:
Pillertriller said:

I forgot Metroid. Butt smash brothers is on switch already too. The rest is niche or in better forms on ps4 ( monster hunter, dq )

I haven't seen that Butt Smash Bros. game. Is it fun?

Typo sorry i tought they played the game at the suissetoy on switch but i was wrong i gues



Kai_Mao said:
Pillertriller said:

Mario, Zelda, Splatoon, Mk and xenoblades only pokemon is missing

Looking at all the multimillion sellers Nintendo has had during the current and last generation, I didn’t know only 5 series count as 90% of Nintendo’s big hits. You got me then. Guess series like Smash Bros., Animal Crossing, Metroid, Fire Emblem, Mario Maker, Donkey Kong, Kirby, and Luigi’s Mansion don’t exist then according to you.

Should i list know sonys million sellers? Not all million sellers are moving consoles lol. Whatever the nintendo defense force is triggered lol



Pillertriller said:
zorg1000 said:

You literally know nothing about Nintendo software

I propably know more than you about it, but i do not hype all the games like you. Nintendos big hits are splatoon, mario ( in all variants with luigi )  zelda, pokemon and metroid. I do not call animal crossing or pikmin or kid icarus or whatever big hits, or titles  a lot of people would buy a switch for. Like i said i know more than you. One of my best friends is chief of nintendo here in switzerland. I know some facts. But of course you are offended cause Nintendo lost big times in November. Sorry brah

You already have proven to be clueless

You said Switch already has Smash, it doesnt.

You said Animal Crossing isnt a big hit, the most recent title sold over 11 million. That is a huge hit.

These two statements alone mean you dont know jack shit about what you're talking about.

And no im not offended that Nintendo lost in November because if you go to the Nov NPD prediction thread you will see that i predicted it would lose to both PS4 & XBO.



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zorg1000 said:
Pillertriller said:

I forgot Metroid. Butt smash brothers is on switch already too. The rest is niche or in better forms on ps4 ( monster hunter, dq )

Smash Bros is not on Switch and how do you list Xenoblade as a big game but not the other games he listed which are all much larger than it.

Xenoblade has never sold over 1 million while Animal Crossing & 2D Mario sell 10+ million.

If you dont know what you are talking about, dont talk.

Animal Crossing is big on Gameboy and i speak about consoles and not from sales 10 years ago lol. Mario is one franchise it doesnt matter how many mario games are coming, Mario fans already have switch, Jesus. Just like i said most of all Nintendo Fans already have a switch, and in the future you only will see big bumps in sales ( worldwide not just japan nitpicking ) when metroid launches, of course pokemon and the next smash brothers. Animal Crossing wont do wonders. 



reviniente said:
ThisGuyFooks said:

The PS4 didn't need a savior in the PS4 PRO, it sold what it sold and nobody was worried about it.

Not even Sony treated the PRO as a must have.

That's because it's not. The PS4 Pro is underwhelming, therefore the incentive for PS4 owners to upgrade is smaller. So, yeah.

You have it backwards. The PS4 is great already so the need to upgrade simply isn’t there. Pro is still 350% as fast as X1...if you want to call that underwhelming, go ahead. I'm sure you will also tell us that the 40% more power the X1X has is “a world of a difference”! 



zorg1000 said:
Pillertriller said:

I propably know more than you about it, but i do not hype all the games like you. Nintendos big hits are splatoon, mario ( in all variants with luigi )  zelda, pokemon and metroid. I do not call animal crossing or pikmin or kid icarus or whatever big hits, or titles  a lot of people would buy a switch for. Like i said i know more than you. One of my best friends is chief of nintendo here in switzerland. I know some facts. But of course you are offended cause Nintendo lost big times in November. Sorry brah

You already have proven to be clueless

You said Switch already has Smash, it doesnt.

You said Animal Crossing isnt a big hit, the most recent title sold over 11 million. That is a huge hit.

These two statements alone mean you dont know jack shit about what you're talking about.

And no im not offended that Nintendo lost in November because if you go to the Nov NPD prediction thread you will see that i predicted it would lose to both PS4 & XBO.

Boy calm down i played on nes while you probably wasnt even born loool. Because i dont give a shit about Nintendo does not mean i dont know anything about it. Like i said i tought it was a smash brothers rehash for switch uhhh he knows nothing blah blah. 



reviniente said:
ThisGuyFooks said:

The PS4 didn't need a savior in the PS4 PRO, it sold what it sold and nobody was worried about it.

Not even Sony treated the PRO as a must have.

That's because it's not. The PS4 Pro is underwhelming, therefore the incentive for PS4 owners to upgrade is smaller. So, yeah.

Well, isn’t the Xbox One X underwhelming too, based on the framerate issuess reported by DF? The Pro was always going to a “nice to have” compared to the “must have” that the base PS4 is.



Pillertriller said:
zorg1000 said:

Smash Bros is not on Switch and how do you list Xenoblade as a big game but not the other games he listed which are all much larger than it.

Xenoblade has never sold over 1 million while Animal Crossing & 2D Mario sell 10+ million.

If you dont know what you are talking about, dont talk.

Animal Crossing is big on Gameboy and i speak about consoles and not from sales 10 years ago lol. Mario is one franchise it doesnt matter how many mario games are coming, Mario fans already have switch, Jesus. Just like i said most of all Nintendo Fans already have a switch, and in the future you only will see big bumps in sales ( worldwide not just japan nitpicking ) when metroid launches, of course pokemon and the next smash brothers. Animal Crossing wont do wonders. 

You just continue to prove you know nothing.

Gameboy line was officially discontinued like a decade ago, why do you keep bringing it up?

Animal Crossing is undeniably a huge hit, the 2 portable entries each sold over 11 million and guess what? Switch functions as a portable.

It is impossible for all Mario fans to have a Switch already. 3D Mario typically sells ~12 million, there arent even that many Switches sold yet so how does every Mario fan have one? They dont.

Again, if you dont know what you are talking than it is best to just stay silent.



When the herd loses its way, the shepard must kill the bull that leads them astray.