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Forums - Sales Discussion - November 2017 NPD Thread! PS4 > XBO > Switch

hudsoniscool said:
quickrick said:

https://www.resetera.com/posts/2141920/

So It was basically between 1.3 and 1.5 million. So u decide to go around saying it's only at 1.3 million. And you state it like it's a matter of fact.

the 1.5 million is for xbox one best month ever.



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zorg1000 said:
hudsoniscool said:

So It was basically between 1.3 and 1.5 million. So u decide to go around saying it's only at 1.3 million. And you state it like it's a matter of fact.

Hes been doing that since he joined. It was revealed that Switch was slightly under 300k in Oct so he went around saying it did under 290k. Then it was revealed it did 750-900k in November so obviously 750k is the number he uses.

Very reliable source said switch did over 2.5x October 750k-770k is the best number we have. with 750k being probably the closest, same source that leaked October's switch numbers.



DonFerrari said:
Shadow1980 said:

First off, see the post I made just above about why the Switch's numbers aren't bad.

Second, saying the Switch won't match the 3DS after this short of a time span is a pretty ballsy claim, considering there is no consistent ratio between first-year sales and lifetime sales, even with just Nintendo systems. There is no reason to assume "Switch 2017 ≤ 3DS 2011, therefore Switch lifetime ≤ 3DS lifetime."

The Switch may have had four notable games this year, but Zelda and 3D Mario are not proven consistent system-sellers, MK8D was a re-release of 3-year-old Wii U game (re-releases never move any significant amount of hardware), and Splatoon was not a system-seller in the U.S. Also, simply being a critically-acclaimed game doesn't automatically make a title a system-seller. Many titles with a 90+ Metascore have failed to be system-sellers.

We still have the Gen VIII Pokemon game in the works, which will be a definite blockbusters, plus the likely Mario Kart 9 and Smash 5, and probably also price cuts and/or hardware revision in the future. The Switch's long-term sales are still up in the air, and I think it still has plenty of potential to outsell the 3DS. But for now, it's doing perfectly fine.

Yes the Switch numbers are good. But as much as we don't have numbers to really claim sub 3DS, we also don't have to claim over 3DS or Wii, but usually only the lower predictions are being trashed on.

BrittinShicks said:
The numbers being discussed here are STILL too low. Switch did much better than 900K. Why doesn't the industry get press coverage of the actual numbers? A summary of Nielsen TV ratings is discussed by the media nearly every day of the week. Why no mention of game sales? Let's all complain to the video game outlets and maybe they will FINALLY do a better job.

Anyway, Switch had a good month. Not a "great" month, but a good month, that we can all be proud of. Hopefully December will be even higher!

So you are saying NPD is lying about Switch sales?

reviniente said:

You're grasping at straws. The quote from the Resetera forum (from where we take the sales figure) puts PS4Pro sales, this November, at around 260,000 (or 65% less than the X). The X did better wether launches are aligned or not. And ultimately, isn't SONY responsible for managing the ill conceived launch of their own console? And what's with that 'The important thing is the X is not going to do what MS wanted it to do, reinvigorate XBO sales.' line? Are you really that emotionally invested in 'winning' the generation?

*Edited launch from lauch.

PS4Pro sales weren't ever really big, they are consistently around 20% of the total sales, so your point is? Sony launched PS4Pro for people to make better use of PSVR or the ones with 4K TV it was never ment to take the front row as MS have been doing with X1X. You are mixing strategies here.

flashfire926 said:
I love how some of the ps guys are desperately trying to paint a bad picture for xbox/nintendo.
Doing this just makes you look worse.
I mean, just admit that other consoles are doing well too and get a move on.

And I'm under the impression you never do bad comments about Sony right?

PortisheadBiscuit said:

Exactly, the desperation is really palpable

Which desperation exactly? The desperation of keep selling more than others?

Farsala said:

Nah I said cash in their pocket, since they kept the price so high they get more revenues from it. And of course hardcore launch buyers will pay more so it was smart of them to keep the price high. Of course they will cut the price in a timely manner, just like Sony did with the Pro, but MS has more room to cut since it is already so high.

How do you cash in making loss?

Sh1nn said:
Splatoon 2 ~100K in November

Skyrim Switch a lillte over 100K

https://www.resetera.com/posts/2173678/
https://www.resetera.com/posts/2190828/

Should we consider these numbers good or bad?

 

Edit:  I removed an earlier comment that had an incorrect assumption about Switch sales in November. 

Last edited by BrittinShicks - on 16 December 2017

quickrick said:
zorg1000 said:

Hes been doing that since he joined. It was revealed that Switch was slightly under 300k in Oct so he went around saying it did under 290k. Then it was revealed it did 750-900k in November so obviously 750k is the number he uses.

Very reliable source said switch did over 2.5x October 750k-770k is the best number we have. with 750k being probably the closest, same source that leaked October's switch numbers.

Edit: I removed my earlier comment about Nintendo's performance in November, as I made a mistake and then stored it in Excel and kept referencing the wrong number.  Sorry for any confusion!

Last edited by BrittinShicks - on 16 December 2017

BrittinShicks said:
quickrick said:

Very reliable source said switch did over 2.5x October 750k-770k is the best number we have. with 750k being probably the closest, same source that leaked October's switch numbers.

No it's not the best number you have.  Switch did well over 900K in November.  

Dude stop making stuff up from your ass. everyone here knows, who john harker is, he's reliable and his source is trusted on vgchartz, and resetera.



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quickrick said:
hudsoniscool said:

So It was basically between 1.3 and 1.5 million. So u decide to go around saying it's only at 1.3 million. And you state it like it's a matter of fact.

the 1.5 million is for xbox one best month ever.

Do u understand the less than < and greater than > signs. It did more than the best November ever but less than the best month ever  so basically between 1.3 and 1.5 million.



Halo MCC will sell 5+ million copies(including digital)

halo 5 will sell 10 million copies(including digital)

x1 will pass ps4 in USA, and UK.

hudsoniscool said:
quickrick said:

the 1.5 million is for xbox one best month ever.

Do u understand the less than < and greater than > signs. It did more than the best November ever but less than the best month ever  so basically between 1.3 and 1.5 million.

Based on the essence of his posts... probably not 



quickrick said:
BrittinShicks said:

No it's not the best number you have.  Switch did well over 900K in November.  

Dude stop making stuff up from your ass. everyone here knows, who john harker is, he's reliable and his source is trusted on vgchartz, and resetera.

Wow I made a mistake.  I apologize.  Here's what happened.  I was looking at something on my tablet from the office and mis-read a m/m % gain, and then I just kept looking at the wrong number that I stored in Excel.  Instead of just complaining about the confusion on this site, I inadvertently added to the confusion for everyone. Now I'm both embarrassed at my mistake and really annoyed because it looks like Switch only sold slightly higher than the 770K that has been discussed here.

God they had a terrible month.  I (incorrectly) thought they had sold >1m.  

What the hell happened to Nintendo?  This is pathetic.  December needs to be much much better.



hudsoniscool said:
quickrick said:

the 1.5 million is for xbox one best month ever.

Do u understand the less than < and greater than > signs. It did more than the best November ever but less than the best month ever  so basically between 1.3 and 1.5 million.

yea i misunderstood . he made it confusing, and i thought he was talking about xbox one best month ever.



BrittinShicks said:
quickrick said:

Dude stop making stuff up from your ass. everyone here knows, who john harker is, he's reliable and his source is trusted on vgchartz, and resetera.

Wow I made a mistake.  I apologize.  Here's what happened.  I was looking at something on my tablet from the office and mis-read a m/m % gain, and then I just kept looking at the wrong number that I stored in Excel.  Instead of just complaining about the confusion on this site, I inadvertently added to the confusion for everyone. Now I'm both embarrassed at my mistake and really annoyed because it looks like Switch only sold slightly higher than the 770K that has been discussed here.

God they had a terrible month.  I (incorrectly) thought they had sold >1m.  

What the hell happened to Nintendo?  This is pathetic.  December needs to be much much better.

it's 750-770k. it's ok though everyone makes mistakes.