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Pemalite on 11 December 2017
fatslob-:O said:

Pemalite said:

Or. We might not.

If we look at how AMD has released GPU's since GCN first came onto the scene... AMD has often just re-badged/re-released GPU's and sprinkled a couple new GPU's on top.

But looking at the roadmaps, the leaks... Seems we are getting Navi around August next year.
And to be fair... There are several people on this forum who once tried to convince me we wouldn't be getting Vega this year at all, that it would drop next year... ;)

I tend to be right more often than I am wrong about these things. :P

 

The only thing AMD has promised is that they'll roll out Navi before 2020 so I doubt they were that confident in bringing out Navi to the market before 2019 otherwise Vega 20 wouldn't be in their plans for next year ... 

AMD has dropped the ball big time by not promoting their own vendor specific enhancements and they haven't been doing a good job on capitalizing their advantage in the console market or DX12 adoption ... 

Except... These guys are saying Navi is due to drop in 2018.

https://www.tweaktown.com/news/59428/amds-next-gen-navi-gpu-launching-august-2018/index.html


Can't forget the 2016 roadmap with Navi listed for 2018 which has been 100% accurate so far.
http://www.fudzilla.com/news/graphics/40207-amd-reveals-navi-gpu-architecture




And just because Vega 20 is potentially launching next year, doesn't mean that Navi can't either.



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sethnintendo on 11 December 2017

Looks huge in top pic but then look down to video with guy holding it then it doesn't look that big.



sethnintendo on 11 December 2017
CGI-Quality said:
sethnintendo said:
Looks huge in top pic but then look down to video with guy holding it then it doesn't look that big.

Same size as most of NVIDIA's GPUs released after the 690.

Ah I have a 1060 6GB so probably same size as that.



hinch on 11 December 2017
Pemalite said:
hinch said:

Impressive, though price is quite staggering.

This probably also means that Nvidia will bump up prices across the board for consumer cards... Thanks AMD Oh well, no competition means my next card will most likely be a GTX2080.

I jumped onto Polaris as I got tired of waiting for Vega.... And just couldn't stand dealing with Cedar.
Hoping Navi is enough of a jump over Polaris to warrant a purchase... As Vega wasn't it.
Otherwise I might actually do the unthinkable. Make a wander over to the green side. (Something I haven't done in years.)

Still, we should get Navi in about 6-9 months, not to much longer to wait with only a Polaris based card.

There is also a few things being floated around that AMD may take a Threadripper approach with Navi, where AMD uses it "fabric" to stitch together a heap of smaller, cheaper to manufacture chips... Which could mean some big things as far as price/performance is concerned and should result in less re-badging of old crap.

If your GPU play games fine on your setup waiting a bit longer shouldn't hurt.

I would be in the market for an AMD GPU (given I have a freesync monitor), though I'm pretty sure Navi will launch quite a bit after Nvidia's more mainstream cards. Hopefully AMD can pull through in the GPU market and pull off a "Ryzen" like product.. as Nvidia dominance means less progress for all.

As for fabric stitching.. this would be interesting to see.. if it works on GPU's as well. Seeing how well Threadripper scales with extra cores.



Ruler on 11 December 2017
eva01beserk said:
Not sure if rumor, but bechmarks are out and this is only 20%-30% better than a 1080ti in games. Is that really worth it for like almost 4 times the price?

For Nvidia its worth it



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fatslob-:O on 11 December 2017
Pemalite said:

Except... These guys are saying Navi is due to drop in 2018.

https://www.tweaktown.com/news/59428/amds-next-gen-navi-gpu-launching-august-2018/index.html


Can't forget the 2016 roadmap with Navi listed for 2018 which has been 100% accurate so far.
http://www.fudzilla.com/news/graphics/40207-amd-reveals-navi-gpu-architecture

*snip*

And just because Vega 20 is potentially launching next year, doesn't mean that Navi can't either.

That's just a rumor and AMD straight up only outlines Navi reaching the market before 2020 plus 7nm will only be ready for products in late 2018 and it's highly doubtful that large die products are the first to release either ... 

AMD launching Vega 20 in the second half of 2018 means Navi is not ready for next year ...



Pemalite on 11 December 2017
CGI-Quality said:
Lots of Threadripper fans, I see. Can't pass on Intel in this field, but I understand! Lot of Ryzen owners in my circle.

Well. It is a great product at a great price.
Like you though, I do prefer Intel in my main system, considering how long a CPU can last you these days... I would rather something that has great single thread performance, lots of cores and can clock high.

hinch said:

If your GPU play games fine on your setup waiting a bit longer shouldn't hurt.

I would be in the market for an AMD GPU (given I have a freesync monitor), though I'm pretty sure Navi will launch quite a bit after Nvidia's more mainstream cards. Hopefully AMD can pull through in the GPU market and pull off a "Ryzen" like product.. as Nvidia dominance means less progress for all.

As for fabric stitching.. this would be interesting to see.. if it works on GPU's as well. Seeing how well Threadripper scales with extra cores.

It's only an RX 580. Although it handles most games perfectly fine at 1440P, there are titles that do struggle... Plus I would like to start supersampling from 4k.
Vega isn't worth the purchase, so hopefully Navi brings the goods.

Plus I could do with the extra compute.

The fabric is the real interesting approach... Using smaller chips means that yields will be higher, which should dramatically reduce costs verses a giant monolithic GPU like in the nVidia Titan V.



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JEMC on 12 December 2017
Pemalite said:


The fabric is the real interesting approach... Using smaller chips means that yields will be higher, which should dramatically reduce costs verses a giant monolithic GPU like in the nVidia Titan V.

That fabric approach is very clever and could be very big, but I worry how much of its success will depend on drivers to hide its real nature (a very sophisticated X-Fire setup) to game engines and other software.



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Pemalite on 12 December 2017
JEMC said:
Pemalite said:


The fabric is the real interesting approach... Using smaller chips means that yields will be higher, which should dramatically reduce costs verses a giant monolithic GPU like in the nVidia Titan V.

That fabric approach is very clever and could be very big, but I worry how much of its success will depend on drivers to hide its real nature (a very sophisticated X-Fire setup) to game engines and other software.

Should be invisible to the drivers and thus sidestep crossfire completely, crossfire and drivers were only necessary because the two GPU's weren't tightly integrated but still needed to work together.

We will just have to wait and see what AMD does on this front though.



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JEMC on 13 December 2017

^We'll see, then.

By the way, the guys at Gamers Nexus have bought a Titan V and they not only benchmarked it with real games, but they've also teared it appart. The chip of the card is GV100-400-A1.



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