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Will the Switch fail just like the WII U?

Yes; without a strong 3rd party support 35 18.52%
 
No; Switch does not need 3rd party support 84 44.44%
 
Other 54 28.57%
 
See Poll Results 16 8.47%
 
Total:189
FattyDingDong said:

I will admit that it offers a great concept but without a substantial 3rd party support it will have the same fate that the WII U had.

You're entitled to your opinion but do you actually believe this?

 

Switch is combining the library and customer base of Nintendo handhelds and home consoles. For the first time in history, we'll have a mainline Pokémon game with home console production values. You really think Switch will have the same fate that Wii U had?

I hope you stick around to prove this isn't just for harvesting points.



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ryuzaki57 said:

Absolutely, OP! As the year comes to an end, we are seeing the first cracks in the Switch "miracle" : rushed ports, handheld mode not keeping up, 3rd party sales not taking off, dubious or carefree publishers, little announcements for next year... If the January Direct doesn't meet (great) expectations, the sales momentum will be broken alongside the fans' dream of reconquista.

Isn't rushed ports and technical issues really a hallmark of consoles launches. There is a great deal of rushed ports on XONE/PS4 from PS3 and X360 that did not really take advantage of the hardware properly and had issues but none of these were really indicative of later releases. I think so far Xeno is about the only major game where the handheld mode has not performed up to expectations and that could be because it was not really optimized all that well for that mode, that is hardly an indication that the handheld mode and the system itself are doomed.

On the topic of little announcements for next year. This is an important point, and as I wrote in a previous comment, Nintendo needs to continue their monthly high profile release schedule in order to maintain momentum (particularly at $300). However, no announcement thus far of such games is not really an indication that they do not have anything to announce. Nintendo chose to focus on 2017 releases this year (with most of the Switch games that we ended up getting being announced at the Jan conference or at E3; even the last Nintendo Direct surprised with the sudden announcement of Doom and Wolfenstein II). I suspect that Nintendo may try to do the same in 2018, where the Jan 2018 and E3 2018 conferences will focus mostly on 2018-related releases. Of course, this is far from certain (since like you said we do not know much) but I think Nintendo understands it is critical to avoid a software droughts (hopefully they prepared in advance).



ryuzaki57 said:

Absolutely, OP! As the year comes to an end, we are seeing the first cracks in the Switch "miracle" : rushed ports, handheld mode not keeping up, 3rd party sales not taking off, dubious or carefree publishers, little announcements for next year... If the January Direct doesn't meet (great) expectations, the sales momentum will be broken alongside the fans' dream of reconquista.

But why are you so happy about it? Being skeptical is fine but this is just sad.



If it was successful for two years.. will it still be a successful considering the life cycle of nintendo is usually 5 years?.. well with pokemon and animal crossing i would like to disagree



 

"it's a fad that will wash away painfully soon"

 Pokémon!

"without a substantial 3rd party support it will have the same fate that the WII U had"

Pokémon!

"I am convinced that the Switch is a fad that will go away within a year or two"

Pokémon!

"with lackluster 3rd party AAA support it has a very predictable fate"

Pokémon!!!




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What a stupid post for a stupid topic. Anyone who calls Wii a fad is clueless. You don't sell 100 million in 6 years on a fad console.DS was a fad. Game Boy was a fad. It'ss clear OP is like many of those out there that want Nintendo to fail and anytime Nintendo has a success it's a fad to their idiotic logic.



No. The Switch is definitely not like the Wii U right now.



This thread is only interesting in that it raises the question, "Will Switch succeed because of third parties or will it succeed in spite of third parties?"

I actually think it is the latter. Nintendo handhelds always succeed and they always have strong first party and third party support. However, I expect Switch sales to decrease in 2018. But in 2019, Switch sales will surpass this year's sales and then keep rising. By 2019 we will get Pokemon and a ton of third party games will hit (mostly Japanese third party games). All of those games coming out in 2019+ will make 2017 seem like a slow year for the Switch.



I agree with you to some extent, but i just can't agree that Switch will become another Wii U: 3rd parties, even if not the big ones, are already onboard with Switch and HW sales - so far - point to that continuing. SW sales of bigger names like Doom, Skyrim, Fifa 18, for exemple, are still a mistery, though.
So, at least, i think it's safe to say Switch will clearly be a few steps above Wii U.

Thing is, there have been only a few big non-port 3rd partiy games - like Fifa 18.
Most of the "great" 3rd party support is based on old ports and so far we really haven't seen a change on that: Activision has been silent; EA has already said their support will be pretty much non-existant; Ubisoft's support has been... standard Ubi support?!

Nintendo, for the first time since GC, has actually executed their strategy of an avalanche of big games to make way for 3rd party developers to follow suit.
But, will that pay off? Most of Nintendo's big names are already out... Pokémon, 2D Mario, Animal Crossing, Smash, are one of the few IPs left to attract a specific userbase.
Wil Nintendo's new IPs have the same impact of a Mario or Zelda? To be confirmed? How will Nintendo manage those remaining IPs (release Schedule) in the years to come? No one knows? What happens if next year there's still no AC, Battlefield, CoD, GTA, RDD 2 (port), Madden, next big IPs sequels?

Switch's success is still not garanteed. And Nintendo still has to prove that they can manage their release schedule (old and new IPs) in a way that not only keeps the momentum, but increases it in the medium and long term.

So, in a sense, Switch can very well become the "little engine that could".



This opinion from start is wrong because Switch can't fail like Wii U, I mean it will end 1st 10 months on market with numbers similar that Wii U had LT. Also rest of points are also wrong.