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Will the Switch fail just like the WII U?

Yes; without a strong 3rd party support 35 18.52%
 
No; Switch does not need 3rd party support 84 44.44%
 
Other 54 28.57%
 
See Poll Results 16 8.47%
 
Total:189

This thread is fanboy troll bate for sure.

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Last edited by Raven - on 11 December 2017

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Green098 said:
ArnoldRimmer said:
As usual, it's pointless to argue if Switch will be a success or failure without talking actual numbers.

Because otherwise, anyone will ultimately claim that his prediction came true:
"It sold more units than the WiiU, so I was right claiming it was a success!"
"It sold less units than , so I was right claiming it was a failure!"

So here we go, let's talk some meaningless bullshit:
As a home console, it will be a failure - but as a portable console/NDS successor, it will be a success.

Although, don't home consoles have a lower bar than handhelds in terms of successfulness? The worst selling Nintendo handheld is at around 70 million and still counting, while on terms of home consoles you've got the Wii U at around 13 million, Gamecube around 20 million and N64 around 30 million. Xbox also did around 30 million and Dreamcast did 8 million. The only major handhelds to do poor numbers were the GameGear and PSVita at around 10 million and 15 million.

I'd say a home console for Nintendo it only needs to sell around 50 million to be a success, but as a portable console and especially if calling it an NDS successor it should really be aiming for at least 60-70 million.

What do we mean by major handhelds? There is also the Atari Lynx, the N-Gage, the WonderSwan, the Neo Geo Pocket and the Microvision.

Last edited by VGPolyglot - on 10 December 2017

VGPolyglot said:
Green098 said:

Although, don't home consoles have a lower bar than handhelds in terms of successfulness? The worst selling Nintendo handheld is at around 70 million and still counting, while on terms of home consoles you've got the Wii U at around 13 million, Gamecube around 20 million and N64 around 30 million. Xbox also did around 30 million and Dreamcast did 8 million. The only major handhelds to do poor numbers were the GameGear and PSVita at around 10 million and 15 million.

I'd say a home console for Nintendo it only needs to sell around 50 million to be a success, but as a portable console and especially if calling it an NDS successor it should really be aiming for at least 60-70 million.

What do we mean by major handhelds? There is also the Atari Lynx, the N-Gage, the WonderSwan, the Neo Geo Pocket and the Microvision.

Sorry I really just meant one's I heard of more as well as a combination of just wanting to mention each one. I'd include the Neo Geo Pocket but when the Atari Lynx came out Atari were out of the popularity they once were and WonderSwan same with Microvision I just didn't know. Really I'd say major handhelds would be any handheld post Gameboy era since it was what really boomed and started/popularised the handheld market and from the major video game companies Nintendo, Sony or Sega at the time they were a popular hardware company.

Last edited by Green098 - on 10 December 2017

I put my hands on the switch for the first time. Played the new Zelda and Mario at Walmart. I absolutely loved both games. Before playing it I honestly didn't understand why it was selling so well. Now I get it. This game has some great software. I think that's pushed sales a lot this year. I do think sales will slow down, and I don't think it will do wii numbers in the long run, but it won't do Wii U Numbers either. It's hard to put a number on how successful it will be but I'd say 55-85 million units.

Im currently an Xbox one x owner. never anticipated buying one before trying Mario/Zelda. I plan to buy one for me and my step son to share. He is 7 and struggling with reading really bad. Once he gets it down I'm going to get it for him either his birthday in summer or for next Christmas. I also want a PS4 either at next Black Friday or the following year.



Halo MCC will sell 5+ million copies(including digital)

halo 5 will sell 10 million copies(including digital)

x1 will pass ps4 in USA, and UK.

Well, the console already started off to a great year, so unless the console suddenly stops with quality game releases I don't think the system is going to simply dwindle and fade off into obscurity. There is this to remember, the system is just reaching the end of its 1st year, so it's likely some 3rd parties weren't ready yet and are working towards releasing games on it in the coming years. We've already seen some other nice titles release on the platform and there are more announced titles on the way, so it's definitely too soon to write off the system.



 

              

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bonzobanana said:
With regard the earlier comment about paid online having a negative effect on Switch sales when it's implemented I can't help wondering if Nintendo will introduce a price drop on the console at the same time therefore those who bought at full price would have benefited from free online and therefore will be more accepting of the price drop. It seems a logical way of introducing it.

It might be wishful thinking on my part though as I don't currently have a Switch and I'm not really interested in online multiplayer with regard Nintendo titles. I'm more into Mario and Zelda and found the mario kart online experience poor in the past compared to xbox and playstation titles. So I'm most interested in getting a Switch at a lower price, hopefully an improved revision with longer battery runtime.

That is definitely wishful thinking, Nintendo paid online is just a $20 per year, thats one third of price of one AAA game, its not like its $50-100 so sales will not slow down beacuse $20 per year paid online and they will defiantly not have price cut beacuse paid online.

Its too early to talk about price drop, but currently best chances for price drop are for holiday season 2019.



gcwy said:
I think it will do around slightly less than GameCube numbers. I wouldn't say it will 'fail'. But the momentum is sure to drop like a brick after the holiday months.

I'm curious, how long did the Wii U keep its sales momentum going?

Wii U was launched in US on November 18, in Europe on November 30, and in Japan on December 8, I will not even mentione "sales momentum", Wii U start selling catastrophic right after launch and holiday season in January. And now you have Switch that still has great sales and still has stock problems on some markets (Japan for instance) 9-10 months after launch.

Just for the record, Switch will end up this year around 13m (that's 10 months of Switch on market) and will end up it first full year on market around 15m. Wii U LT numbers are 13.5m and GC LT numbers are 23m.

Also there is no reason to think that Switch sales will drop like brick after holiday beacuse Switch was selling great even before holiday season.



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Nem said:
Baddman said:
meh this thread seems like a stealth troll but what do I know

In half of this site, everything that isn't praise to Nintendo is taken as a troll. Give it a rest. People are entitled to their opinions and it IS interesting to talk about it rather than shut it down.

man  get out here with that nonsense  i'd think it was a stealth troll if someone said  it about any other console. don't mistake me for one of them idiot fanboys just because i find topics like this thread stupid.  I'd say more but would likely be banned



SpokenTruth said:
It's amazing how a successful Nintendo product seem to cause so much psychological and emotional pain for some people.

The only cure for them is for Nintendo to fail but they can temporarily ease the discomfort and symptoms of a successful Nintendo console by making irrational and illogically derived negative comments, statements, news spin and predictions.

Idk man, all signs point to a huge drop in January.



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