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Pemalite said:
Azzanation said:

There not different. Gays are two men or woman who like the same sex. Incest can also be two men and woman who like the same sex just the same.

Sexuality and Incest are COMPLETELY separate constructs.

And like you just alluded to... You can be either gay/straight/bisexual and in an incest relationship.
Ergo. Incest has nothing to do with Homosexuality or any sexuality for that matter... SO you can stop trying to force a connection between them.

Azzanation said:

Like I said before, what's the difference between two male gays compared to 2 gay brothers? Nothing, they both breath and bleed.

I can use the same argument about you and your partner. You both breathe and bleed and ergo are the same as 2 gay men in an incestual relationship.

Do you see how this is a logical fallacy?

Azzanation said:

They both cannot reproduce etc. Its sort of legal now image it becoming worse in the coming years. You let one thing through than expect more. Sure we have set rules in place. We at this moment in time say incest is wrong etc, just like how we said gays were wrong as well. Rules change regardless if you have your belief that these rules will never change. They will eventually. Especially when we start throwing around terms "Love is love"

We have already established that your slippery slope logical fallacy is rubbish with the sound logic and reasoning already presented prior in this thread that you have acknowledged.
Thus merely rewording it to somehow make it seem different isn't suddenly going to turn your Argumentum ad Ignorantiam into something sound. - So why continue with it?

Don't take me for a fool... I am pretty sure I have been sufficiently eloquent enough in this thread to show that I am not one.

Azzanation said:

Also your opinion on gun laws is your obviously your opinion. To me its the stupidest thing we have ever done, we are the first to blame issues on objects and not people.

Stupidest thing we have ever done? Are you serious?
We have not had a gun massacre in decades. It's saved lives... And you think that is stupid? Since when has saving lives equated to being stupid?

Gun control works in Australia, it wouldn't work in say... The USA. - For one, the USA is not girt by sea... A natural barrier to smuggling of weapons, drugs and people.

It's not just my opinion either, it's statistics. It's evidence.
And even if we have a gun massacre tomorrow, the fact we didn't have one for several decades prior still means it was worth it.

Azzanation said:

 Russia seems to get along well with guns in place, crazy that.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2012_Moscow_shooting

Sure it does. Keep thinking that.

Azzanation said:

Crime will happen regardless.

So your argument is... That unless we can stop 100% of all crime, be it kids stealing lollies from a shop, someone holding a shop up with a knife, someone hit and running an old lady in a car... That we shouldn't ban guns?

That would be like saying unless vaccines can cure 100% of all diseases known to man... There is no point in getting any vaccine.

Different problems require different solutions, if it's a different crime not related to guns, then it requires a different solution, it's that simple.

Azzanation said:

Just like we cant play some games in Australia because there too violent eg Hatred. However that's an debate for another thread.

I don't have any drama getting the games I wish to play, there are ways around it... Like importing from another PAL territory, pirating, VPN... List goes on.

Guns don't control the crimes. The people do and unfortunately in the USA its the culture not the guns that's the issue. Banning them only takes away freedom doesn't solve the problem. Those mass shootings will still happen regardless if guns are banned or not (eg. black Market). Blaming items for crimes is a poor mans excuse. Australia banned knifes in the city yet we still have stabbings. What next, we ban cars because some crazy people do hit and runs? No thanks. Id rather take freedom of choice than be monitored like babies and being defenceless at the same time. This comes down to your opinion vs mine and mine wont change on the matter. Anyway moving on because this is the wrong thread for Gun control posts.

I don't import or emulate so majority miss out on these games that get banned because Australia thinks that's the reason for bad behaviour.

Australia's logic for banning video games because of modern violence. (Pic Below)

Back to the main topic. Does it matter if there gay, straight, incest or pedo? Why allow one and not the others if others say they do it because there in love? We can judge and exclude them for a period of time however how long can we continue holding the lines. Maybe our generation is safe but maybe not the next.

Quotes from the LGBT (Vid Below)

This is a growing community that will continue to push for more. Love is love as they say.

Its already happening with paedophilia want to be part of the LGBT community. Its extremely wrong however if paedophilia is pushing for sexual orientation, what's not stopping incest from there own sexual identity? (Vid Below)

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Azzanation said:

Back to the main topic. Does it matter if there gay, straight, incest or pedo? Why allow one and not the others if others say they do it because there in love? We can judge and exclude them for a period of time however how long can we continue holding the lines. Maybe our generation is safe but maybe not the next.

Quotes from the LGBT (Vid Below)

This is a growing community that will continue to push for more. Love is love as they say.

Its already happening with paedophilia and there trying to push into LGBT community. Its extremely wrong however if paedophilia is pushing for sexual orientation what's not stopping incest from there own sexual identity? (Vid Below)

So, I see you're fearmongering in order to try to undermine the rights of LGBTs. Ask most homosexuals, bisexuals and transexuals if they're OK with incest and pedophilia, I'm pretty sure what the result will be.



VGPolyglot said:
Azzanation said:

Back to the main topic. Does it matter if there gay, straight, incest or pedo? Why allow one and not the others if others say they do it because there in love? We can judge and exclude them for a period of time however how long can we continue holding the lines. Maybe our generation is safe but maybe not the next.

Quotes from the LGBT (Vid Below)

This is a growing community that will continue to push for more. Love is love as they say.

Its already happening with paedophilia and there trying to push into LGBT community. Its extremely wrong however if paedophilia is pushing for sexual orientation what's not stopping incest from there own sexual identity? (Vid Below)

So, I see you're fearmongering in order to try to undermine the rights of LGBTs. Ask most homosexuals, bisexuals and transexuals if they're OK with incest and pedophilia, I'm pretty sure what the result will be.

Its a trending social movement on Twitter and YouTube that provides information how gays were once considered a mental illness and was redefined as a sexual orientation. In recent years paedophilia has been redefined from a mantel illness to a uncontrollable desire as a lifestyle. Some of the LGBT community has advocated the social movement of paedophilia as a sexual orientation.  

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Azzanation said:
VGPolyglot said:

So, I see you're fearmongering in order to try to undermine the rights of LGBTs. Ask most homosexuals, bisexuals and transexuals if they're OK with incest and pedophilia, I'm pretty sure what the result will be.

Its a trending social movement on Twitter and YouTube that provides information how gays were once considered a mental illness and was redefined as a sexual orientation. In recent years paedophilia has been redefined from mantel illness to something that's uncontrollable.  Some of the LGBT community has advocated the social movement of paedophilia as a sexual orientation.  

Do you know what a mental illness is? If it's something they have a hard time controlling, that is probably indicative of that. The thing is, if they haven't committed anything wrong yet they should get help and treatment before they do, better to deal with it before something bad happens rather than after. In any case, trying to help someone before they do it is not condoning pedophilia, it's trying to minimise it before the fact rather than only doing something about it after the fact after something bad has already happened.



Azzanation said:

Guns don't control the crimes. The people do and unfortunately in the USA its the culture not the guns that's the issue. Banning them only takes away freedom doesn't solve the problem. Those mass shootings will still happen regardless if guns are banned or not (eg. black Market). Blaming items for crimes is a poor mans excuse. Australia banned knifes in the city yet we still have stabbings. What next, we ban cars because some crazy people do hit and runs? No thanks. Id rather take freedom of choice than be monitored like babies and being defenceless at the same time. This comes down to your opinion vs mine and mine wont change on the matter. Anyway moving on because this is the wrong thread for Gun control posts.

I don't import or emulate so majority miss out on these games that get banned because Australia thinks that's the reason for bad behaviour.

Australia's logic for banning video games because of modern violence. (Pic Below)

Back to the main topic. Does it matter if there gay, straight, incest or pedo? Why allow one and not the others if others say they do it because there in love? We can judge and exclude them for a period of time however how long can we continue holding the lines. Maybe our generation is safe but maybe not the next.

Quotes from the LGBT (Vid Below)

This is a growing community that will continue to push for more. Love is love as they say.

Its already happening with paedophilia want to be part of the LGBT community. Its extremely wrong however if paedophilia is pushing for sexual orientation, what's not stopping incest from there own sexual identity? (Vid Below)

Posting a video from Infowars, an outlet run by a guy who thinks the US government has weather weapons that can control tornadoes and that vaccines cause autism, doesn't help your argument.

There always has been and always will be pedophiles and the more outspoken ones trying to normalize it. This is nothing new. But it's child abuse. As such it will never be legalized in a civilized society.

Ultimately, all this pedophilia talk is frankly off topic. This thread is about consenting gay adults having the right to marry in Australia. That has nothing to do with pedophilia.

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KratosLives said:
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Just because they legalized gay marriage?



It's funny how people still freak out over gay marriage. It'll lead to incest!!!

 

After all, with this logic heterosexuality will lead to incest as well. Shouldn't we ban straight marriage as well?



monocle_layton said:

It's funny how people still freak out over gay marriage. It'll lead to incest!!!

 

After all, with this logic heterosexuality will lead to incest as well. Shouldn't we ban straight marriage as well?

Love leads to incest and pedophilia, #SayNotToLove!



monocle_layton said:

It's funny how people still freak out over gay marriage. It'll lead to incest!!!

After all, with this logic heterosexuality will lead to incest as well. Shouldn't we ban straight marriage as well?