What promises did they break when announcing how the game would be two years before it release? Are you talking about your internal expectations?

By the way it sold 250k second week retail, seems like it already outdo FM7 and will be close to do that to FM6 soon enough.

Still waiting to see how the control MS have been doing to FM have done it any good in sales since it have been dropping since FM3.

Kaz saying GTsport has all the same features as previous GTs but more ? its GT7 just with new name.   Be it bad pr and just blatant stupidity on their part is irrelevant, the fanbase expected a proper GT game.  Making their already sub par damage even worse, taking modifying out with Kaz's excuses literally saying the fanbase is to ignorant to understand modifications.  Taking out the offline single player.   

Or best yet Kaz saying online is only 15% of the game experience lmao what a lie.  https://www.gtplanet.net/gt-sport-online-experience-around-15-total-game/

It's the best racing franchise for over a decade.  That's what MS control did.  Forza dropped due to lower user base funny you totally are oblivious to console sales especially in europe.   Not due to the incompetence and mismanagement of the developer.  Gtsport launched on the largest user ever for the first GT of a gen, it been a massive disappointment.  In comparison GT5 dropped when PS3 was at about 40 million, Gtsport dropped on 65 million.  

Consider the market place and PS4 continued sales, Gtsport is the most pitiful GT to ever release by any metric.   Even more telling is Uncharted 4 did all time highest sales for the franchise, Guerilla's single player game just did all time highest sales for them as a developer.  Quality developers releasing great games are achieving all time highest sales.  

So FM4 didn't release in X360 and sold less than FM3? Didn't FM6 and 7 release with bigger userbase on X1 than 5 and sold worse?

Yes GTS is selling lower than GT5 and a lot of users are disappointed, still Kaz was clear on the e-sport being the focus.

Kaz is full of shit.  

"Gran Turismo Sport is actually going to contain more features than any other game in the series to date. Nothing has been dropped, things have only been added."

"In Gran Turismo Sport not only do we have all the different features that we had in the past titles, we also have lots of brand new features..."

https://www.gtplanet.net/kazunori-yamauchi-pre-e3-2017-interview-gt-sport-features-game-series/

Last Forza or GT of a gen typically do less than the early ones, even though released on larger user bases you should know that being on this site.   

F7 just released how the hell you calling it sold less ?  F6 is 400k behind F5 only on VG, not including digital.

While FH3 out sold them all lol.  Retail wise it's already 4th highest selling forza and still charting high.  

So having a bigger userbase doesn't really makes the most important point? Thanks for proving my point for me.

SP single player is one feature (that is entering the fray this month), and considering ALL MP races (that are the focus) have the BP balanced and they want all racing on equal footing the adjustment of the install of turbos and similar are kinda pointless, and was substituted for a very simple (and yes, cellphone lilke) upgrade for the cars.

FW of FM7 was under 200k, so between 1/4 and 1/5 of GTS.

FH3 isn't a simulator and I prefer GT keeps very far from it.

Yahh it is the most important point just maybe behind game quality .  Especially for Gtsport the first of a gen, what don't you understand about that ? First Gt of a gen always sales best.  there are 3 prior gens showing that.   And it had the largest user base to ever sale on as a first of a gen GT.  It had everything going for all time massive sales but the game itself.  

It's not pointless, you are just saying it is because they cut it for joke of a reason.  Especially as you said they are finally adding offline.   

Nice made up numbers.  

Neither Is GTs lol.  

GTS sold over 900k retail and probably around 1.3M total FW.

FM7 sold less than 200k FW.

So again I keep asking you how doing the MS route would help GT sell more, since that was your first point. But then you retort to the game quality. And so I ask you, so the was all GT games better than FM? Because try as most as you want X360 had similar userbase than PS3.

If you had played the game yourself you’d know that he is telling the truth.

GTS in first week sold more than Forza lifetime. After price drop, updates and announcements, bundles and Black Friday the game is probably at 3 million already and will be a keeper.

Stop bringing the Horizon series into the equation, it doesn’t count, no matter how hard you try.

If they went Ms route they had a bigger team had way more content had Not pissed fans off by destroying the essence of the franchise.  

It would have rivaled GT5 first week and first month's numbers not struggled to achieve GT6s failure of a sales count.  

Can you repeat that, it lacks grammatical sense and I can't make out what you are asking exactly.  

I have it and he's Straight up lying.  When he says it's like any GT just more i don't expect then to see.  

Far inferior track and vehicle count.
Mostly fake fantasy tracks.
No offline campaign/championships.
No vehicle engine or body modifications.
No dynamic weather.
No track editor. 

When he says it's GT but more i expect a full GT content and features game but with competent working online.  

 Who cares, this is GT it's supposed to do better than the low numbers they got.  Gt was like COD, its sales weren't at all comparable to any genre competitor.  Gtsport low sales are low for GT, i don't care if it's higher the Forzs or NFS.  Forza has actual logical reasons for lower sales, GTsport does not.  other than the quality of the game.  What does that mean, Forza life time.   Given factually GTs first week has not out sold a single Forza's lift time sales.   So i'm not sure what are you attempting to claim.  

What doesn't count, that near most other sony devs are doing record numbers while PD is struggling to match their lowest ever.  Yahh id want to avoid such facts also if i were defending a sub par product.  Glad you agree it's not a keeper now, maybe potentially with enough updates sure but i have serious reservation given PD slow development ways.