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Kerotan said:
zorg1000 said:

Absolutely they can coexist, my whole point was that you were oversimplifying the price argument earlier.

I was just pointing out a factor in the discussion that certain users often conveniently leave out when comparing the two. 

Well you could also mentioned fact that PS4 was easily strongest console on market on which games best performed, or that had 500GB HDD compared to Switch 32GB internal memory, but offcourse you didnt.



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quickrick said:
Aura7541 said:

IIRC, Benji said that the Switch had a good lead leading up to Black Friday, but didn't say that the Switch won the whole month. After the BF weekend, he said that the PS4 sold insane numbers and bet on the PS4 winning overall according to his numbers.

We'll see when details of December NPD leak. I'm willing to put my trust on his (and Abdiel's) assessment.

He  said PS4 and xbox had great black Fridays weekends, and would probably beat switch, then in his next post, he says he's not sure because switch was selling great, and it could end up winning. basically covering all the angles.

All his BF posts are heavily saying that PS4/XB1 are beating Switch, and now he saying that Switch will easily beat month, he wrote "But yeah it would take something very strange for Switch to not be no 1" and that "November 2017 and December 2017 look very very different".

 

You bet that Switch in December will be last, but it's interesting that you even deny possibility that Switch will win December, especially because if we look Amazon it obvious that Switch is selling much better than PS4/XB1 than it was case in November when PS4/XB1 sold more even on Amazon.



Now that holidays are over, looks like Switch is extending his lead over PS4. Right now Switch is #10 and #14, PS4 is #19, #64 and #97

I already predicted that, but right now i don't expect January to be a close month. Imo, Switch should outsell PS4 by +50K.



quickrick said:
PortisheadBiscuit said:

And if Switch wins Dec, please do not go M.I.A.... take the L like a man 

I though he was talking about WW shipments. switch won't be close/

peachbuggy said:

Bookmarked. For   easy access once we get some indication of numbers.

I though he was talking about WW shipments. switch won't be close. December NPD ps4 will win by a small amount, but i could switch see switch winning.

Nice piece of flip flopping. Although i don't think PS4 will definitely take it WW either.



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peachbuggy said:
quickrick said:

I though he was talking about WW shipments. switch won't be close/

I though he was talking about WW shipments. switch won't be close. December NPD ps4 will win by a small amount, but i could switch see switch winning.

Nice piece of flip flopping. Although i don't think PS4 will definitely take it WW either.

lmao, ok. talk about being delusional.



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quickrick said:
peachbuggy said:

Nice piece of flip flopping. Although i don't think PS4 will definitely take it WW either.

lmao, ok. talk about being delusional.

He isnt being delusional. He is talking WW sold in Dec. Its possible but we wont know because we dont get all the numbers. That said he is right about you flipping your story. Now your saying switch might outsell ps4 dec (US) but before you werent even considering it a possibility



tbone51 said:
quickrick said:

lmao, ok. talk about being delusional.

He isnt being delusional. He is talking WW sold in Dec. Its possible but we wont know because we dont get all the numbers. That said he is right about you flipping your story. Now your saying switch might outsell ps4 dec (US) but before you werent even considering it a possibility

We get shipments numbers for oct, nov, and December. there is no WAY to just get shipments for december only. as far as i know we don't have official december npd, so i can change my prediction accordingly. I still think ps4 will come out on top.



tbone51 said:
quickrick said:

lmao, ok. talk about being delusional.

He isnt being delusional. He is talking WW sold in Dec. Its possible but we wont know because we dont get all the numbers. That said he is right about you flipping your story. Now your saying switch might outsell ps4 dec (US) but before you werent even considering it a possibility

It is highly delusional to think think that the PS4 wont win world wide in December.   Because we know about Europe's existence. We don't have enough data to figure out the US yet.  Anyone who was paying attention last month knows that online sales are heavily skewed for Switch.  So much so, the PS4 could outsell it two to one and we would ever know.  

But worldwide you really need to do some explaining to somehow overcome everything we already know about the select regions.

We know that Switch will win japan by a few hundred thousand.   We know Europe will favor PS4 with a much higher margin than Japan will favor Switch (like at least a million).   Whatever the difference is can't be made up for in the US.  



quickrick said:
peachbuggy said:

Nice piece of flip flopping. Although i don't think PS4 will definitely take it WW either.

lmao, ok. talk about being delusional.

At least i know the definition of "falling off a cliff" lol. Nintendo will win Japan massively, NA fairly comfortably and lose Eur/others but will be competitive there, so i think it will be close WW.



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CosmicSex said:
tbone51 said:

He isnt being delusional. He is talking WW sold in Dec. Its possible but we wont know because we dont get all the numbers. That said he is right about you flipping your story. Now your saying switch might outsell ps4 dec (US) but before you werent even considering it a possibility

It is highly delusional to think think that the PS4 wont win world wide in December.   Because we know about Europe's existence. We don't have enough data to figure out the US yet.  Anyone who was paying attention last month knows that online sales are heavily skewed for Switch.  So much so, the PS4 could outsell it two to one and we would ever know.  

But worldwide you really need to do some explaining to somehow overcome everything we already know about the select regions.

We know that Switch will win japan by a few hundred thousand.   We know Europe will favor PS4 with a much higher margin than Japan will favor Switch (like at least a million).   Whatever the difference is can't be made up for in the US.  

Imo Switch will be more competitive than you think in Europe/others.



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