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gtjay1982 said:
Isn't the X1 still $189? What is this $199 sale?

Not in stock till Dec 23.



                                                                                                                                            

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SpokenTruth said:
Madword said:

Well two issues with that, (not disbutting that december is better) but you have the Wii-u which sold crap and did better in december (sell small and double is not that impressive but also gives a MOM% which isnt realistic). or the 3DS which was a cheaper?? handheld.

So if we say switch did 800k November, and use my top range of 1.3 thats 500k. I think thats a reasonable assumption for the price of the product. Could it do 1.5 yeah of course. But all data/products are not equal is what I am saying. 

A 1.3 million December would be highly disappointing and out of line with current sales trends and expectations by professional sales analysts.

Some people were highly disappointed by the less than 1m in December. So I guess its all apples and pears.

Hah lets not go there with the "Professional Sales Analysts", sorry but most of them are just riding the waves of info they get from other sources and certainly are only slightly better than everyone else guessing... they generally change their story based on bits of info coming out from people and then try to sound like people in the know. "All three are close in November"... " 2:1 difference. "Only talking about my own stores".... Even the NPD guy wasn't accurate for November at times...

Of course the numbers could be higher. All I am saying is that showing two products with different prices and status and then taking the % increase for MOM does not necessarily equate to evidence that Switch would do the same. Of course expectation is that products will sell more in December. Could I see switch doing 1.4 or 1.5, of course totally feasible. I think the top end of any of the three consoles will be 1.6m, I suspect that Xbox will struggle behind PS4 probably by about 200-300k because of the pre-order drop off but will stabilise some of those loses because of price - $189 .

  • PS4 = 1.5
  • Xbox = 1.3
  • Switch = 1.3


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Unless next year Microsoft releases a new Halo or Gears for the One, i think the Xbox One will have 2 straight years without getting an NPD.

The Switch wont stop, the PS4 will peak next year (imo), and Xbox One current Lineup for 2018 is decent at best.



ThisGuyFooks said:
Unless next year Microsoft releases a new Halo or Gears for the One, i think the Xbox One will have 2 straight years without getting an NPD.

The Switch wont stop, the PS4 will peak next year (imo), and Xbox One current Lineup for 2018 is decent at best.

Why would that help them though? Who wants to an XBox one for Halo/Gears that hasn't gotten one already?

Gears 4, and Halo 5 already released on xb1 - so why would gears 5 or halo 6 pull that many new people in?

Cuphead probably would have done it if it wasn't on steam.  Sure a portion wouldn't have bought it, and a portion would have just gotten the windows 10 version.

But a portion left would have gotten an xbox to play it.



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Bandorr said:
ThisGuyFooks said:
Unless next year Microsoft releases a new Halo or Gears for the One, i think the Xbox One will have 2 straight years without getting an NPD.

The Switch wont stop, the PS4 will peak next year (imo), and Xbox One current Lineup for 2018 is decent at best.

Why would that help them though? Who wants to an XBox one for Halo/Gears that hasn't gotten one already?

Gears 4, and Halo 5 already released on xb1 - so why would gears 5 or halo 6 pull that many new people in?

Cuphead probably would have done it if it wasn't on steam.  Sure a portion wouldn't have bought it, and a portion would have just gotten the windows 10 version.

But a portion left would have gotten an xbox to play it.

You are right, i agree with you! 



Well, at least this month has gotten interesting, again. Have to see if a $249 Slim and a $349 Pro can take the month for Sony.



ThisGuyFooks said:
Unless next year Microsoft releases a new Halo or Gears for the One, i think the Xbox One will have 2 straight years without getting an NPD.

The Switch wont stop, the PS4 will peak next year (imo), and Xbox One current Lineup for 2018 is decent at best.

Sounds about right. They will have a shot in November/December because of the massive discounts but most likely no npd for them and this is true even if halo 6 and forza horizon 4, and ori all released in September/October. It's too late my only hope is it can be up from 2017. I'm just hoping it's moderately successful in the end and sells 50-60 million units.



Halo MCC will sell 5+ million copies(including digital)

halo 5 will sell 10 million copies(including digital)

x1 will pass ps4 in USA, and UK.

Bandorr said:
ThisGuyFooks said:
Unless next year Microsoft releases a new Halo or Gears for the One, i think the Xbox One will have 2 straight years without getting an NPD.

The Switch wont stop, the PS4 will peak next year (imo), and Xbox One current Lineup for 2018 is decent at best.

Why would that help them though? Who wants to an XBox one for Halo/Gears that hasn't gotten one already?

Gears 4, and Halo 5 already released on xb1 - so why would gears 5 or halo 6 pull that many new people in?

Cuphead probably would have done it if it wasn't on steam.  Sure a portion wouldn't have bought it, and a portion would have just gotten the windows 10 version.

But a portion left would have gotten an xbox to play it.

You are right a new halo gears won't bring in very many new players. Could help a little getting people to upgrade to the x though.



Halo MCC will sell 5+ million copies(including digital)

halo 5 will sell 10 million copies(including digital)

x1 will pass ps4 in USA, and UK.

hudsoniscool said:
Bandorr said:

Why would that help them though? Who wants to an XBox one for Halo/Gears that hasn't gotten one already?

Gears 4, and Halo 5 already released on xb1 - so why would gears 5 or halo 6 pull that many new people in?

Cuphead probably would have done it if it wasn't on steam.  Sure a portion wouldn't have bought it, and a portion would have just gotten the windows 10 version.

But a portion left would have gotten an xbox to play it.

You are right a new halo gears won't bring in very many new players. Could help a little getting people to upgrade to the x though.

And I guess upgrading to the X will help with the NPD. So in theory I guess I could see those helping chart on NPD.

Not sure enough will upgrade for it to actually win an NPD - but it is certainly something I didn't consider. So thank you.



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