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Last November,

I supported him and I still do - Americas 91 15.77%
 
I supported him and I now don't - Americas 16 2.77%
 
I supported him and I still do - Europe 37 6.41%
 
I supported him and I now don't - Europe 7 1.21%
 
I supported him and I still do - Asia 6 1.04%
 
I supported him and I now don't - Asia 1 0.17%
 
I supported him and I still do - RoW 15 2.60%
 
I supported him and I now don't - RoW 2 0.35%
 
I didn't support him and still don't. 373 64.64%
 
I didn't support him and now do. 29 5.03%
 
Total:577
CrazyGamer2017 said:
CosmicSex said:

There are about 1.8 billion Muslims in the world.  Targeting them all solely based on their religion is bigotry.  There are 2.2 billions Christians in the world.  I imagine that if we count up all of the crimes that were committed by Christians they would equal or exceed Muslim crimes.  But we aren't going to ban Christians because that is bigotry.  If the President sent out videos of Christians committing crimes to characterize the whole of Christianity, there would rightly so be outrage.  Only simple minded people can be controlled with macro level mindsets like 'something's wrong with the Muslims'.  You mindset is cancerous and dangerous and worst of all, its not even your own idea.   

I imagine in a few thousand years when both religions are dead, we will find something else as stupid to target each other about.  I would say the same thing to a Muslim who uses propaganda against Christians. 

Please remind me when was the last time a christian blew himself up screaming Jesus is the greatest and in the process killing a whole bunch of innocent people in ANY city of the world, whether in the west or in the middle east?

And FYI I don't defend crimes made by Christians or any other group. For example I don't defend nazis under the excuse that all nazis did not kill or that most neo-nazis weren't even born when WW2 war crimes happened. So why would I defend islam's crimes? Cause it's a religion it has the right to a special treatment? Not on my watch.



Don't like quoting Wikipedia but here you go: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Christian_terrorism

Also:

http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter/article/2017/aug/16/look-data-domestic-terrorism-and-whos-behind-it/



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CrazyGamer2017 said:
Torillian said:

Well it usually doesn't come up because Presidents by and large don't try to do things that aren't constitutional. 

Really? I'm not a constitution specialist so I could be wrong here in which case please correct me but...

Was Hiroshima and Nagasaki's atomic bomb cowardly dropped on civilians, constitutional? Don't remember any judge trying to stop that or impeaching Truman for such a horrible act.

Was the creation of the FED which is basically a private organization running and printing dollars with the blessing of whatever president was in charge at the time, a constitutional thing?

Is the NSA and CIA spying on private communications (as Snowden proved to the world) of pretty much every citizen in the world a constitutional thing?

I could go on for a while if I wanted but these few example will do. The point being that the forces in power seem to worry about the constitution when it suits them and when it does not, they seem to be using the constitution as toilet paper.

I said, by and large, but those are cases where perhaps someone should have taken issue with those actions. Judges need to be able to put a check on the president which goes both ways. Obama's executive order on minimum salaried pay was similarly held up in a Texas court. It's a thing that can and should happen. 

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CrazyGamer2017 said:
CosmicSex said:

There are about 1.8 billion Muslims in the world.  Targeting them all solely based on their religion is bigotry.  There are 2.2 billions Christians in the world.  I imagine that if we count up all of the crimes that were committed by Christians they would equal or exceed Muslim crimes.  But we aren't going to ban Christians because that is bigotry.  If the President sent out videos of Christians committing crimes to characterize the whole of Christianity, there would rightly so be outrage.  Only simple minded people can be controlled with macro level mindsets like 'something's wrong with the Muslims'.  You mindset is cancerous and dangerous and worst of all, its not even your own idea.   

I imagine in a few thousand years when both religions are dead, we will find something else as stupid to target each other about.  I would say the same thing to a Muslim who uses propaganda against Christians. 

Please remind me when was the last time a christian blew himself up screaming Jesus is the greatest and in the process killing a whole bunch of innocent people in ANY city of the world, whether in the west or in the middle east?

And FYI I don't defend crimes made by Christians or any other group. For example I don't defend nazis under the excuse that all nazis did not kill or that most neo-nazis weren't even born when WW2 war crimes happened. So why would I defend islam's crimes? Cause it's a religion it has the right to a special treatment? Not on my watch.

Christians didn’t blow themselves up historically but they’ve publically executed people in many ways. 



Errorist76 said:

You know what Christianity has done in the past?! Or is still doing in their most extreme versions (KKK)?! (ISL/ISIS/Daesh is NOT Islam, just like the KKK is not Christianity!)

I have grown up with many Muslims, are friends with many of them....Many great and honest and very very hospital persons. To be honest more than many so called "Christians" on paper.

Some others are crazy and dangerous, just like some asshole Germans, Brits, Australians, Polish, Russian or other "Christian" countries origin I've met in my life. How many Muslims (out of the Kebab store) have you really met or be friend's with to have such a twisted opinion?!

Last time I checked KKK does not rule the US, KKK does not make laws and KKK does not even try to speak in the name of Christianity. KKK operates on the idea that whites are superior to blacks which is an issue of RACISM. Islam operates on the basis that their religion is the center of everything, the point of reference of everything and anyone that is NOT a muslim must one way or another eventually become one, or die.

If only their terrorists did their crimes out of making money or gaining something but they don't, they even often die in their own attacks, their only goal is islam, you know that religion shared by over a billion people.

And I have met and spoken with many muslims and while everyone is different, all tend to go toward the same goal: islam is everything and every human being should be a muslim. One muslim I once knew even told me: Atheists are like animals they have no souls and they will burn in hell for all eternity.

let me tell you one thing: Islam is to religion what nazism was to politics: A cancer. And while other religions or politics are not crime free, it does not change what islam is or what islam wants to achieve.

And finally let me say that if no free country can forbid me to criticize liberals, or conservatives, Trump, Clinton, Christianity, capitalism or communism, it sure as hell cannot tell me that I cannot criticize islam. If you and others wish to put islam on some special ground where no one can be critical of it, then do that but I for one hold no religion or politics or anything else above criticism. That TOO is democracy.

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CrazyGamer2017 said:
Errorist76 said:

You know what Christianity has done in the past?! Or is still doing in their most extreme versions (KKK)?! (ISL/ISIS/Daesh is NOT Islam, just like the KKK is not Christianity!)

I have grown up with many Muslims, are friends with many of them....Many great and honest and very very hospital persons. To be honest more than many so called "Christians" on paper.

Some others are crazy and dangerous, just like some asshole Germans, Brits, Australians, Polish, Russian or other "Christian" countries origin I've met in my life. How many Muslims (out of the Kebab store) have you really met or be friend's with to have such a twisted opinion?!

Last time I checked KKK does not rule the US, KKK does not make laws and KKK does not even try to speak in the name of Christianity. KKK operates on the idea that whites are superior to blacks which is an issue of RACISM. Islam operates on the basis that their religion is the center of everything, the point of reference of everything and anyone that is NOT a muslim must one way or another eventually become one, or die.

If only their terrorists did their crimes out of making money or gaining something but they don't, they even often die in their own attacks, their only goal is islam, you know that religion shared by over a billion people.

And I have met and spoken with many muslims and while everyone is different, all tend to go toward the same goal: islam is everything and every human being should be a muslim. One muslim I once knew even told me: Atheists are like animals they have no souls and they will burn in hell for all eternity.

let me tell you one thing: Islam is to religion what nazism was to politics: A cancer. And while other religions or politics are not crime free, it does not change what islam is or what islam wants to achieve.

And finally let me say that if no free country can forbid me to criticize liberals, or conservatives, Trump, Clinton, Christianity, capitalism or communism, it sure as hell cannot tell me that I cannot criticize islam. If you and others wish to put islam on some special ground where no one can be critical of it, then do that but I for one hold no religion or politics or anything else above criticism. That TOO is democracy.

You can be as much as a bigot as you want....I'm not forbidding you anything. Problem is you are in no way different than those you're hating on by what you write on here.


""the point of reference of everything and anyone that is NOT a muslim must one way or another eventually become one, or die.""
 

If you really think that's what the vast majority of Muslims on this planet think, then I can't help you..sorry.

 

""Last time I checked KKK does not rule the US, KKK does not make laws and KKK does not even try to speak in the name of Christianity. ""

Exactly. KKK does not rule the US or Christianity...ISIS does not rule Islam, actually 99.9 % despise their actions and consider what they are doing anti-islam, but whom do I tell that?!

 

 

So...guess were done here. Enough with the thread ripping!

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Indifferent. By liking him or not...he's still the US President.



Insert Coin. Press START. You Died. Continue?

He's still a living pile of shit and anyone who supports him I still don't recognize as human beings but smaller turds. Anytime something stupid comes pouring out his cunt mouth I will call him a stupid cunt on twitter.



S.T.A.G.E. said:

Christians didn’t blow themselves up historically but they’ve publically executed people in many ways. 

Yes and I will never defend them and that may be one key difference with islam.

The inquisition for example, you know about 500 years ago, the church tortured and burned a lot of people that did not want to convert to christianity and that cannot be forgotten or defended but the fact remains that I have not yet heard any christian say: Oh but the inquisition has NOTHING to do with christianity, cause that would be revisionism, exactly like some neo-nazis that say Hitler never hurt any Jews. No one in their right mind could tolerate someone defending nazism by saying that nazis never hurt any Jews, right?

But when it comes to islam, too often do I hear that islam has nothing to do with radical islam. Islam must be the cleanest most pure religion EVER cause whenever something goes wrong with those people, it has nothing to do with islam or muslims. Biggest cop-out I have ever heard.

Way to never take responsibility either in the muslim world and among those non-muslims in this forum (an not only here) who defend islam and can't stand to see it criticized as everything else can be.



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I'm in the zone, don't bother me!

CrazyGamer2017 said:
S.T.A.G.E. said:

Christians didn’t blow themselves up historically but they’ve publically executed people in many ways. 

Yes and I will never defend them and that may be one key difference with islam.

The inquisition for example, you know about 500 years ago, the church tortured and burned a lot of people that did not want to convert to christianity and that cannot be forgotten or defended but the fact remains that I have not yet heard any christian say: Oh but the inquisition has NOTHING to do with christianity, cause that would be revisionism, exactly like some neo-nazis that say Hitler never hurt any Jews. No one in their right mind could tolerate someone defending nazism by saying that nazis never hurt any Jews, right?

But when it comes to islam, too often do I hear that islam has nothing to do with radical islam. Islam must be the cleanest most pure religion EVER cause whenever something goes wrong with those people, it has nothing to do with islam or muslims. Biggest cop-out I have ever heard.

Way to never take responsibility either in the muslim world and among those non-muslims in this forum (an not only here) who defend islam and can't stand to see it criticized as everything else can be.

Timothy Mcveigh was Christian. Your ignorance is astounding. Your posts in this thread are egregious. Your posts are racist, narrow-minded and should be against TOS. It's hate speech.  Call a public figure an asshole..fine but to group an entire race of people with such malice like you have, honestly should get you banned I hope it does.



CrazyGamer2017 said:
S.T.A.G.E. said:

Christians didn’t blow themselves up historically but they’ve publically executed people in many ways. 

 

Way to never take responsibility either in the muslim world and among those non-muslims in this forum (an not only here) who defend islam and can't stand to see it criticized as everything else can be.

When did the pope officially apologise for the KKK’s doings?! Or Anders Breivik’s for that matter?! (Just because you asked, you might actually remember him in Belgium)

Again if you really think the majority of Islam support Daesh|ISIL you’re so so wrong. They’re the devil impersonate to them as well.

I apologise for asking you for your friendship once, didn’t think you’d be such a racist bigot. Sadly very disappointed.