bdbdbd said:
Insidb said:
This is not accurate, at all.
I pointed out that they are ALL biased and that Fox is not news: propaganda.
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They're all propaganda. You think one is more propaganda than the other, because the other fits better to your view. Objectively speaking, there's really no difference.
the-pi-guy said:
Eh, a tax bill that ruins the country isn't exactly worth celebrating.
"Let's add trillions more to the debt.
Let's tax graduate students more.
Let's raise taxes on the poor in the long term.
Let's lower taxes on the rich who are already making bank. That sounds fair."
Everything has bias. All news outlets have bias. The difference though is that Fox News puts their bias front and center.
They lie more than those other news outlets.
https://www.theperspective.com/debates/entertainment/perspective-fox-news/
"It creates an ‘echo chamber’
Conservatives have long disagreed with the mainstream media’s liberal tilt. But before the launch of Fox News, they were at least forced to engage with the news seen by a major share of Americans. With many right-leaning viewers now getting their information from Fox News (along with the rise of partisan online media sites), though, they are not exposed to the viewpoints many Americans take for granted. Not only does this stop them from challenging their own perspective; it also limits their ability to persuade and engage others. Trump’s presidency has highlighted this challenge. Having an additional viewpoint is a positive, but creating a bubble (a phenomenon present on both sides of the partisan divide) is not.
It is low-quality journalism
The difference between Fox News and other networks is not simply where they fall on the political spectrum. Fox may also be less committed to accuracy and journalistic standards than its competitors. Politifact, a non-partisan fact-checking website, rated more than 150 statements made on Fox News by pundits or their guests. Sixty percent were rated Mostly False, False, or Pants on Fire. This compares to just 27 percent for CNN, and 41 percent for MSNBC, the network’s liberal competitor. Fox News has also never won a Peabody Award (though other Fox affiliates including FX have). There’s a place for punditry, but at other networks, it takes a backseat to journalism. That is not the case at Fox."
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Firstly, I really have to say, that based on that statistic, CNN apparently has exceptionally high standard when it comes to news. Around here, still based on that statistic, Fox would qualify as one of the top news outlets - then again, our biggest news outlet is is government funded, which might partly explain it.
Secondly, the statistic is apparently only about one field, and seeing how things are done here, the media tells us only one side of the whole story (technically they are not lying, they just don't tell you the truth), and "news" appear to be more of an opinion pieces for the reporter than actual news.
Thirdly, people who watch just the "liberal media" "they are not exposed to the viewpoints many Americans take for granted". So, I thimk this works in both ways.
DevilRising said:
The fact that a "man" like Trump ever won a national election for anything, let alone President, is a sick joke.
Then again, the fact that our "only two" options at the end, because Americans allow the Big Two parties to brainwash them into believing that ONLY those two parties are ever viable, hence trapping us in neverending chessmatch between them, is also a sick joke.
Ultimately, in my view, America did this to themselves, as a nation, as a whole. For it to really come down to THOSE two choices at the end, honestly for me was the straw that broke the camel's back. I was already nearly done with American politics, and that finally did me in. I could not in good conscience vote for EITHER person, because both of them were corrupt morons. Would Clinton have been LESS embarrassing and LESS damaging as President? Absolutely. But that doesn't mean that voting for her felt like the "right thing" to do, either.
And frankly, I was/am sick to death of voting for "the lesser of two evils". You shouldn't vote for someone just to keep someone ELSE out. And if I couldn't vote for someone that I actually believed in, even a little bit, then I was done. |
Consider your options: if you don't vote for the lesser of the two evils, the worse of the two evils get elected. This really is a problem with the system, but it is to keep the people in power as people in power.
SpokenTruth said:
Don't. For as much as CNN and MSNBC may lean left, Fox leans twice as far to the right and often times sounds like state run media (a la China, NK or Russia) now that a Republican is in the White House.
Finding a truly objective news outlet is practically impossible now but Fox is so far skewed to one side that it would flip over if it were a ship.
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I don't have problem in calling Fox news as Faux news, but I'm going to call everyone else as faux news aswell. I think what partly skews Fox more right than the others left, is that Fox apparently is "battling alone against others". But anyway, looking at the politics, USA has one party more on the right, and the other party even more on the right. So this right/left thingy doesn't really work in the context of US's politics.
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