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Last November,

I supported him and I still do - Americas 88 15.66%
 
I supported him and I now don't - Americas 14 2.49%
 
I supported him and I still do - Europe 36 6.41%
 
I supported him and I now don't - Europe 7 1.25%
 
I supported him and I still do - Asia 6 1.07%
 
I supported him and I now don't - Asia 1 0.18%
 
I supported him and I still do - RoW 14 2.49%
 
I supported him and I now don't - RoW 2 0.36%
 
I didn't support him and still don't. 365 64.95%
 
I didn't support him and now do. 29 5.16%
 
Total:562
Immersiveunreality said:
SpokenTruth said:

Do you not realize the Mississippi state flag has the Confederate flag built into it?  Or that Mississippi has 130+ Confederate monuments? They celebrate Robert E. Lee's birthday on MLK day. They have a Confederate Memorial Day in April. 5 counties and/or cities names after Confederate leaders or generals. Hundreds of roads, parks, schools, etc...too.

To suggest you might only see 4 flags over an entire year is illogical.

The confederate flag is seen with the same digust as a swastika right?I do not really understand why goverments keep openly supporting it when this causes such a huge tension under its own population.

I also think Victorlink87 is talking about citizens openly showing the flag and not the things you mention in your comment,he would ofcourse be aware of that but must find it of less importance and i do agree with that.

This. You said it better than I. The majority of Mississippians do not fly or even notice the state flag until it pops up as a controversy. What the citizens do and say is a greater indicator of the culture than the government. Especially when its an inanimate object that cannot act on its own.



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Immersiveunreality said:
SpokenTruth said:

Do you not realize the Mississippi state flag has the Confederate flag built into it?  Or that Mississippi has 130+ Confederate monuments? They celebrate Robert E. Lee's birthday on MLK day. They have a Confederate Memorial Day in April. 5 counties and/or cities names after Confederate leaders or generals. Hundreds of roads, parks, schools, etc...too.

To suggest you might only see 4 flags over an entire year is illogical.

The confederate flag is seen with the same digust as a swastika right?I do not really understand why goverments keep openly supporting it when this causes such a huge tension under its own population.

I also think Victorlink87 is talking about citizens openly showing the flag and not the things you mention in your comment,he would ofcourse be aware of that but must find it of less importance and i do agree with that.

I've lived in Texas (4 different cities) and Tennessee like he did and I saw flags every day.  I now live in Florida and I see flags every day.  So how likely is it that the very heart of Dixie they are so rare that you see only 1 in an entire year?

I wonder how often he looks at license plates.  The Confederate battle flag is part of the Sons of Confederate Veterans vanity license plate.



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Victorlink87 said:
MrWayne said:

That the south is not more racist than the rest of the USA? Why are you disagreeing with him?

The last part. "Its just racist". I do not believe you can cast the entire people group under that headline.

I think he means systemic racism, I mean the point he makes in the article is that people in the south aren't as racist as other americans think. And to be fair everyone has some racist thoughts because racism often times gives an easy explanation for complex things.



SpokenTruth said:
Immersiveunreality said:

The confederate flag is seen with the same digust as a swastika right?I do not really understand why goverments keep openly supporting it when this causes such a huge tension under its own population.

I also think Victorlink87 is talking about citizens openly showing the flag and not the things you mention in your comment,he would ofcourse be aware of that but must find it of less importance and i do agree with that.

I've lived in Texas (4 different cities) and Tennessee like he did and I saw flags every day.  I now live in Florida and I see flags every day.  So how likely is it that the very heart of Dixie they are so rare that you see only 1 in an entire year?

I wonder how often he looks at license plates.  The Confederate battle flag is part of the Sons of Confederate Veterans vanity license plate.

It was my favorite pass time on 72. No cell service, nothing but trees and small towns. I enjoyed seeing where people were from. I saw 1 license plate with the Confederate flag. I saw a lot of Ole Miss and MSU and Alabama plates though. Too many to count.

Fun fact MS license plates start with the first letter of the issuing county. I saw 1 Sons of Confederate Veterans. I am also more likely to meet an openly gay man in MS than a member of the SVC. As SVC numbers are under 100k across the whole US by last count. Number of LGBTQ people in MS were right at 75k.

Edit: I notice the flags.  They stick out like a sore thumb and an urge to destroy it comes over me, I of course immediately surpress it.

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For any and all of you claiming that 'Antifa are just as bad' or 'just as violent' as the white nationalists, neo-nazis, and 'proud boys', you're missing one key factor: The only reason Antifa exists and is active or violent is to OPPOSE FASCISM! It's in their name. their goal is to be anti-fascists. Their violence is reactionary, not provocative, and they're reacting to the rise of a historically and knowingly violent hate group.

The solution to stop inciting violence from Antifa is to stop supporting or sympathizing with nazis.

Violence may not be the answer, but sometimes it's the only solution. America and England didn't politely ask the nazis to stop, they went to war. America and England were violent, sure, but they did what they had to do for the greater good. Denying that and acting as if passivity breeds progress is harmful, especially when acting like white nationalist neo-nazis are 'in their rights to preach hate speech' or whatever.

Antifa needs to be violent, since asking politely to stop being a racist hate-group hasn't been working. If anything they should be MORE violent; Nazism has no place in this world and is an inherently violent hate-group.



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MrWayne said:
Victorlink87 said:

The last part. "Its just racist". I do not believe you can cast the entire people group under that headline.

I think he means systemic racism, I mean the point he makes in the article is that people in the south aren't as racist as other americans think. And to be fair everyone has some racist thoughts because racism often times gives an easy explanation for complex things.

That's probably true. Even then I think it needs to be more specific. Ex: The Delta in MS definitely has a systemic racism issue. However, North West MS , Memphis, TN and the Gulf Coast do not. 

I do think we all have a default propensity to work off stereotypes because it is easier and less challenging to our world view. When we learn to overcome it and question everything we are fed/think we move forward.

I sincerely believe that the south's stereotype could be overcome if education were a focus. I left MS because the public educational system, except for DeSoto and Madison, is crap. People are fleeing MS like they are fleeing CA, just for different reasons. A lot of Mississippians are going to Alabama, Tennessee and Texas.



Runa216 said:
For any and all of you claiming that 'Antifa are just as bad' or 'just as violent' as the white nationalists, neo-nazis, and 'proud boys', you're missing one key factor: The only reason Antifa exists and is active or violent is to OPPOSE FASCISM! It's in their name. their goal is to be anti-fascists. Their violence is reactionary, not provocative, and they're reacting to the rise of a historically and knowingly violent hate group.

The solution to stop inciting violence from Antifa is to stop supporting or sympathizing with nazis.

Violence may not be the answer, but sometimes it's the only solution. America and England didn't politely ask the nazis to stop, they went to war. America and England were violent, sure, but they did what they had to do for the greater good. Denying that and acting as if passivity breeds progress is harmful, especially when acting like white nationalist neo-nazis are 'in their rights to preach hate speech' or whatever.

Antifa needs to be violent, since asking politely to stop being a racist hate-group hasn't been working. If anything they should be MORE violent; Nazism has no place in this world and is an inherently violent hate-group.

Antifa might came into excistence because of that yes and at its core white supremacy groups are most likely a lot worse but now it revolved into 2 types of blind violence feeding and existing of eachothers hate.

Violence on the level of these kind of extreme activism mostly just brings more violence,it such a sad never seeming to be ending cycle, i do think we would be better of having a platform were those 2 extremes can have more peacefull collisions because raining violence down upon them will only strenghten the messed up thinking they have.



We need a wall immediately!  National Crisis!  Just look at Israel.  They built a wall and now look at all the immigrants trying to flood into Israel!

 

 

We need a even better HUGELY WALL!



Victorlink87 said:
sethnintendo said:

Problem most good states get pretty damn cold during winter.  Need more global warming.  Became a cold pussy since coming from Ohio to Texas 19 years ago.  Currently in Austin which is alright except all the fucks that keep coming here.   And I'm sorry to hear you were from Mississippi.  Must have been traumatic.  I bet you need counseling for that.  PTSD from living in redneck country.

I am from Memphis, TN. Went to college in MS and spent some years in Oxford, MS. I actually enjoyed Oxford. Here you will find that you have southerners, rednecks, white trash, etc. They come in variety packs haha.

Memphis, TN huh.  Heard there were some rough and tough areas around there.  My parents had a second home between Pigeon Forge and Gatlinburg but it burnt down a couple years ago in that big Sevierville fire.



sethnintendo said:

We need a wall immediately!  National Crisis!  Just look at Israel.  They built a wall and now look at all the immigrants trying to flood into Israel!

 

 

We need a even better HUGELY WALL!

Thank you. I haven't laughed so hard in a while.