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Where do you think Microsoft will focus on?

PC 62 54.87%
 
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Equal focus on both 37 32.74%
 
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Pemalite on 12 December 2017
Mr Puggsly said:

I think MS is gaining ground among PC gamers and their content has been doing well critically on Steam.

The Windows Store is doing better than Games for Windows Live! But against Steam it hasn't really gone anywhere.
The games that are released on the Windows Store tend not to have a playerbase so Multiplayer is useless.


Mr Puggsly said:

Eitherway, I still anticipate MS will close the gap on Windows software working on Xbox. In theory using software like virtual machine software could allow MS to curate PC games on Windows and its something they should take advantage of.

I think that was always the goal with Xbox though, to leverage the significantly larger software library and playerbase on PC to help push their console.
The original Xbox was very PC-like and even adopted many PC-exclusives like Elder Scrolls.



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Mr Puggsly on 12 December 2017
Pemalite said:
Mr Puggsly said:

I think MS is gaining ground among PC gamers and their content has been doing well critically on Steam.

The Windows Store is doing better than Games for Windows Live! But against Steam it hasn't really gone anywhere.
The games that are released on the Windows Store tend not to have a playerbase so Multiplayer is useless.


Mr Puggsly said:

Eitherway, I still anticipate MS will close the gap on Windows software working on Xbox. In theory using software like virtual machine software could allow MS to curate PC games on Windows and its something they should take advantage of.

I think that was always the goal with Xbox though, to leverage the significantly larger software library and playerbase on PC to help push their console.
The original Xbox was very PC-like and even adopted many PC-exclusives like Elder Scrolls.

Windows Store isnt going head on with Steam. I think thats pretty evident with their games on Steam. We are talking about two markets on the same platform, Windows. MS doesent need to steal users from Steam nor is it worth the efffort. Instead get users using both which is happening.

Windows Store games should always be compatible with Steam games for online play. Thays obvious, it would also make people less reluctant to buy the Windows Store version. On a side note, it would be awesome to see more cross plat purchases. When you buy a Xbox games digitally, you own it Windows Store as well. All 1st party and some 3rd party do this.

Im talking about making the Windows software literally run on Xbox, in a curated way. The potential of support would be significant from that.



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Pemalite on 12 December 2017
Mr Puggsly said:

Windows Store isnt going head on with Steam. I think thats pretty evident with their games on Steam. We are talking about two markets on the same platform, Windows. MS doesent need to steal users from Steam nor is it worth the efffort. Instead get users using both which is happening.

Windows Store is competing with Steam. No two ways about it, Steam is vastly superior.

They are both digital distribution platforms.
They are both on PC.
They are both selling video games, some exclusive to their stores.

Mr Puggsly said:

Windows Store games should always be compatible with Steam games for online play.

Except they aren't.

Mr Puggsly said:

On a side note, it would be awesome to see more cross plat purchases. When you buy a Xbox games digitally, you own it Windows Store as well. All 1st party and some 3rd party do this.

I agree, cross-plat purchases are a fantastic idea, I wish it was a common thing in the industry... Then I wouldn't have baught Minecraft PC, Minecraft Xbox 360, Minecraft Xbox One, Minecraft Playstation 3, Minecraft on Android and I will likely get Minecraft on the 3DS at some point. Haha

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Mr Puggsly said:

Im talking about making the Windows software literally run on Xbox, in a curated way. The potential of support would be significant from that.

I think that is where they are taking it anyway... From a developer perspective, Microsoft's tools have been heading towards the idea of one development software platform, many hardware platforms.

Still, on the PC it's hard to deny Steams superiority over all else... And Valve deserves the success, they supported the PC whilst other companies ignored it.



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KLAMarine on 12 December 2017

Bankruptcy. Without XBox, Microsoft has nothing!



Mr Puggsly on 12 December 2017
Pemalite said:
Mr Puggsly said:

Windows Store isnt going head on with Steam. I think thats pretty evident with their games on Steam. We are talking about two markets on the same platform, Windows. MS doesent need to steal users from Steam nor is it worth the efffort. Instead get users using both which is happening.

Windows Store is competing with Steam. No two ways about it, Steam is vastly superior.

They are both digital distribution platforms.
They are both on PC.
They are both selling video games, some exclusive to their stores.

Mr Puggsly said:

Windows Store games should always be compatible with Steam games for online play.

Except they aren't.

Mr Puggsly said:

On a side note, it would be awesome to see more cross plat purchases. When you buy a Xbox games digitally, you own it Windows Store as well. All 1st party and some 3rd party do this.

I agree, cross-plat purchases are a fantastic idea, I wish it was a common thing in the industry... Then I wouldn't have baught Minecraft PC, Minecraft Xbox 360, Minecraft Xbox One, Minecraft Playstation 3, Minecraft on Android and I will likely get Minecraft on the 3DS at some point. Haha

...DAMMIT MOJANG!

Mr Puggsly said:

Im talking about making the Windows software literally run on Xbox, in a curated way. The potential of support would be significant from that.

I think that is where they are taking it anyway... From a developer perspective, Microsoft's tools have been heading towards the idea of one development software platform, many hardware platforms.

Still, on the PC it's hard to deny Steams superiority over all else... And Valve deserves the success, they supported the PC whilst other companies ignored it.

I see Windows Store and Steam competition kinda like Hulu and Netlflix. You can enjoy both on the same device but they offer different content to justify using both. The popular titles on Windows Store obviously is not the content on Steam. MS is adding lots of content exclusive to their store even while sharing some with Steam.

Killer Instinct is the recent exception. It supports cross play between Xbox, Windows Store, and Steam. We need more of that.

Is anybody arguing Steam's success is not deserved? I think MS has a following among PC gamers but their support has just been kinda crappy. Sharing games between Xbox and Windows is great and their store is clearly more active from it. I assume that was the goal.



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derpysquirtle64 on 13 December 2017
Mr Puggsly said:
Pemalite said:

The Windows Store is doing better than Games for Windows Live! But against Steam it hasn't really gone anywhere.
The games that are released on the Windows Store tend not to have a playerbase so Multiplayer is useless.


I think that was always the goal with Xbox though, to leverage the significantly larger software library and playerbase on PC to help push their console.
The original Xbox was very PC-like and even adopted many PC-exclusives like Elder Scrolls.

Windows Store isnt going head on with Steam. I think thats pretty evident with their games on Steam. We are talking about two markets on the same platform, Windows. MS doesent need to steal users from Steam nor is it worth the efffort. Instead get users using both which is happening.

Windows Store games should always be compatible with Steam games for online play. Thays obvious, it would also make people less reluctant to buy the Windows Store version. On a side note, it would be awesome to see more cross plat purchases. When you buy a Xbox games digitally, you own it Windows Store as well. All 1st party and some 3rd party do this.

Im talking about making the Windows software literally run on Xbox, in a curated way. The potential of support would be significant from that.

Then, what's the point of Windows Store existence? I still don't get it.



 

derpysquirtle64 on 13 December 2017
KLAMarine said:
Bankruptcy. Without XBox, Microsoft has nothing!

Despite this being pure sarcasm, it is true about Microsoft's gaming division. I still don't get that the majority votes that MS will go PC route from now on and pull out of console business. I just don't see them being in video games industry at all without Xbox. At least on the same scale as they are right now. They will still probably maintain Minecraft but that's it. In my opinion if they pull out of console business they will quit gaming entirely as well.



 

Mr Puggsly on 13 December 2017
derpysquirtle64 said:
Mr Puggsly said:

Windows Store isnt going head on with Steam. I think thats pretty evident with their games on Steam. We are talking about two markets on the same platform, Windows. MS doesent need to steal users from Steam nor is it worth the efffort. Instead get users using both which is happening.

Windows Store games should always be compatible with Steam games for online play. Thays obvious, it would also make people less reluctant to buy the Windows Store version. On a side note, it would be awesome to see more cross plat purchases. When you buy a Xbox games digitally, you own it Windows Store as well. All 1st party and some 3rd party do this.

Im talking about making the Windows software literally run on Xbox, in a curated way. The potential of support would be significant from that.

Then, what's the point of Windows Store existence? I still don't get it.

Windows Store is not just a PC gaming market. Its MS's store on Windows 8/10, mobile devices, and Xbox.

Its games, TV/movies, and apps shared between multiple platforms.

Also, no middle man. More control and higher profits selling direct. Kinda like EA, Ubisoft, and Blizzard does. But MS still gives Steam some content.



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derpysquirtle64 on 13 December 2017
Mr Puggsly said:
derpysquirtle64 said:

Then, what's the point of Windows Store existence? I still don't get it.

Windows Store is not just a PC gaming market. Its MS's store on Windows 8/10, mobile devices, and Xbox.

Its games, TV/movies, and apps shared between multiple platforms.

Also, no middle man. More control and higher profits selling direct. Kinda like EA, Ubisoft, and Blizzard does. But MS still gives Steam some content.

This stuff isn't available in my country as well as many others. This shows how MS is bad at handling worldwide appeal. And Windows 8 and mobile devices can be considered dead as of now. I don't see Windows Mobile or whatever it is called to have any future because Microsoft abandoned it and they don't intend to support the platform. So, this leaves Windows 10 and Xbox only.

My point here is simple: Windows Store doesn't give MS anything to achieve in PC gaming market because right now it works only as a nice bonus for Xbox owners - it gives them the ability to play their digital games on PC if they want. Also probably it gives the ability for some PC only gamers to try Xbox exclusives but they will never use it for anything except these exclusives. They have Steam for other games. So, this shows how Windows Store is pretty useless. At least for now.



 

Mr Puggsly on 13 December 2017
derpysquirtle64 said:
Mr Puggsly said:

Windows Store is not just a PC gaming market. Its MS's store on Windows 8/10, mobile devices, and Xbox.

Its games, TV/movies, and apps shared between multiple platforms.

Also, no middle man. More control and higher profits selling direct. Kinda like EA, Ubisoft, and Blizzard does. But MS still gives Steam some content.

This stuff isn't available in my country as well as many others. This shows how MS is bad at handling worldwide appeal. And Windows 8 and mobile devices can be considered dead as of now. I don't see Windows Mobile or whatever it is called to have any future because Microsoft abandoned it and they don't intend to support the platform. So, this leaves Windows 10 and Xbox only.

My point here is simple: Windows Store doesn't give MS anything to achieve in PC gaming market because right now it works only as a nice bonus for Xbox owners - it gives them the ability to play their digital games on PC if they want. Also probably it gives the ability for some PC only gamers to try Xbox exclusives but they will never use it for anything except these exclusives. They have Steam for other games. So, this shows how Windows Store is pretty useless. At least for now.

Does every company make content available in every country? I doubt it. I mean MS has found pretty great success in spite of your complaint.

Mobile devices like phones isnt relevant per se, but people use Windows Store on laptops, tablets, etc. Basically all of these devices using modern Windows Software have access to the Windows Store.

Bingo! You just argued my point. If people comes to the Windows Store, even just for exclusives, thats fine! Is anybody arguing Battle.net is failing because people only go there for exclusive games?



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