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Where do you think Microsoft will focus on?

PC 62 54.87%
 
Xbox 14 12.39%
 
Equal focus on both 37 32.74%
 
Total:113

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Last edited by flashfire926 - on 29 November 2017

Bet with Intrinsic:

The Switch will outsell 3DS (based on VGchartz numbers), according to me, while Intrinsic thinks the opposite will hold true. One month avatar control for the loser's avatar.

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derpysquirtle64 said:
ResidentToxy said:

Let us assume that all these things were introduced by the Xbox brand, what one can take away from this is the fact that the Xbox One has failed to bring anything new to gaming or the legacy of Xbox.

Focusing on PC would be the best thing for Microsoft at this point. It just seems like they are saving face at this point.

PS4 didn’t bring anything new to gaming as well if you talk about something revolutionary. It’s just another console which plays some games with better graphics than PS3. 

Could be argued the Playstation 3 did more than the Playstation 4.

For one...
* Backwards compatibility with PS1 and PS2 discs.
* Could play audio CD's.

At-least the Xbox One does more than it's predecessor with Blu-Ray and UHD Blu-Ray support.
And it would have had Kinect mandated, if people didn't crack a tanty.

RJ_Sizzle said:

The dock is a scaler, it doesn't "improve" graphics

Er. Scaling does improve graphics. It's a form of image manipulation.

However... I highly doubt the dock has a built in scaler... The chip inside the dock seems to be a relatively simple hub for outputting HDMI, USB and performing negotiation duties with the Switch.
The Switch's Tegra chip does have a built-in scaler as part of it's feature set which is extremely capable.

Plus having a second external scaler that performs additional image manipulation... Would add to the input lag and is in general... An unnecessary cost.

reviniente said:

Instead of making people buy games they already own, right?

XB1X embarrassment? No, no, no. Find your way to Youtube, and visit the Digital Foundry channel. Then you will understand who is being embarrassed.

Would be great if the Xbox One X would go higher than a last century 1080P resolution on my 1440P/2k/Quad-HD display though... And actually had games to showcase it's hardware. ;)





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reviniente said:
ResidentToxy said:

Let us assume that all these things were introduced by the Xbox brand, what one can take away from this is the fact that the Xbox One has failed to bring anything new to gaming or the legacy of Xbox.

Focusing on PC would be the best thing for Microsoft at this point. It just seems like they are saving face at this point.

Let's not. Those innovations were introduced by Xbox, and the question that was formulated, pondered what its legacy was. It's not possible to have a constructive discussion if we're being disingenuous.

Others have pointed out that many of these things existed before the Xbox brand, and they managed to develop a genuine discussion. Looks like the fault it with you, and you alone. The Xbox brand definitely helped to streamline things such as downloadable gaming, however, they certainly were not the first.

My point was, whether or not the Xbox brand were the first in implementing these things, the Xbox One has failed to bring in anything new.



Pemalite said:
derpysquirtle64 said:

PS4 didn’t bring anything new to gaming as well if you talk about something revolutionary. It’s just another console which plays some games with better graphics than PS3. 

Could be argued the Playstation 3 did more than the Playstation 4.

For one...
* Backwards compatibility with PS1 and PS2 discs.
* Could play audio CD's.

At-least the Xbox One does more than it's predecessor with Blu-Ray and UHD Blu-Ray support.
And it would have had Kinect mandated, if people didn't crack a tanty.

RJ_Sizzle said:

The dock is a scaler, it doesn't "improve" graphics

Er. Scaling does improve graphics. It's a form of image manipulation.

However... I highly doubt the dock has a built in scaler... The chip inside the dock seems to be a relatively simple hub for outputting HDMI, USB and performing negotiation duties with the Switch.
The Switch's Tegra chip does have a built-in scaler as part of it's feature set which is extremely capable.

Plus having a second external scaler that performs additional image manipulation... Would add to the input lag and is in general... An unnecessary cost.

reviniente said:

Instead of making people buy games they already own, right?

XB1X embarrassment? No, no, no. Find your way to Youtube, and visit the Digital Foundry channel. Then you will understand who is being embarrassed.

Would be great if the Xbox One X would go higher than a last century 1080P resolution on my 1440P/2k/Quad-HD display though... And actually had games to showcase it's hardware. ;)



Wot? Is 2160P not high enough for you?



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Imaginedvl said:
reviniente said:

How on Earth do you know this?

I believe he is using the same logic than people thinking the Xbox One is failure because it does not reach Play Station Four sale numbers :)

I believe you are using the logic that Xbox One is successful, even though it hasn't hit PS4 sales numbers in the same way you and I are successful, even though we haven't hit the salary bracket of Elon Musk, Bill Gates etc. Everyone's a winner and has achieved success, in their own little way. There are no losers :)



I think that MS isn't as committed to xbox as it used to be. It's fairly obvious with the lack of exclusives, the canceling of games and closure of their studios. I believe that MS just didn't want to enter the gaming market to make a little money but to dominate it soundly. They haven't been able to. I don't think they're okay with just doing alright so I believe that MS is backing off for now at least for this gen. Who knows if they'll make another xbox or focus more on the pc related markets.



I like the Xbox overall (much more the 360 than the Xbox One but still) and it's been my console of choice for third parties - yet I don't see much of a place for MS in the console business going forward. Nintendo has the kids and convenience/handheld angle covered while Sony is dominating the older gamers/horse power/entertainment hub side of things. MS would be best served putting their efforts all into Windows/PC gaming.

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reviniente said:

Instead of making people buy games they already own, right?

XB1X embarrassment? No, no, no. Find your way to Youtube, and visit the Digital Foundry channel. Then you will understand who is being embarrassed.

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If you were not too quick to be prejudiced then maybe you would have got what I was saying.

for point one? yes. And while I get the slant you are trying to imply? it doesn't even really matter. what good has BC done for XB1 this gen. But next gen it would matter. And no, before you get shallow, its not because it's Sony doing it. It's because of the growth of digital distribution this gen. it's growing and growing Evey year. And that's a big deal. Because games bought digitally is tied to an account that's gonna be carried over across generations now. Think about that. 

As for point two.... read carefully. Obviously the person being embarrassed is Sony (if we really can call it that being hey came out a year earlier) but let's call it that; an embarrassment. hence why I said make no mistake they would set out to make as powerful a console as they can next gen. 

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Pemalite said:



RJ_Sizzle said:

The dock is a scaler, it doesn't "improve" graphics

Er. Scaling does improve graphics. It's a form of image manipulation.

However... I highly doubt the dock has a built in scaler... The chip inside the dock seems to be a relatively simple hub for outputting HDMI, USB and performing negotiation duties with the Switch.
The Switch's Tegra chip does have a built-in scaler as part of it's feature set which is extremely capable.

Plus having a second external scaler that performs additional image manipulation... Would add to the input lag and is in general... An unnecessary cost.



I don't even think the dock is a scaler. or has any kinda scaling hardware built in. 

The NS hardware is what it is in or out of the dock. difference is that out of the dock it's downclocked to improve battery life. In the dock it can be powered externally and thus perform as it would if not being downclocked. Simple as that. Everything happens inside the NS itself.