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Forums - Sales Discussion - NPD Analyst Expects Over 600,000 Xbox One X Sold this Year; PS4, Xbox One, Switch Could All Win November

 

NPD, Who wins?

Switch! 43 31.62%
 
Xbox! 20 14.71%
 
Playstation! 66 48.53%
 
Ouya! 7 5.15%
 
Total:136
Angelv577 on 26 November 2017
ironmanDX said:
hudsoniscool said:
When he says he expects the x to blow past 600k it tells me that the x is well past 300k for November. Probably in the 400-500k range. I think that's extremely good. I expect a price drop to 450 in Aprilish as sales at 499$ can only be sustained for so long.

Agreed. To think when this price was announced at E3, even most people in the Xbox Empire thread were questioning MS' decision. Now it's well in it's way to outpacing the Pro in the same time period for $100-150 more.

Does it really matter if the X outsell the pro? really? The ps4 pro only sell 20% of total sales.  Just selling a bit more than that won't do much past holidays because you know the xb1 s sales will go down after holidays unless they keep the 189 price permanent.  If the xb1 X doesn't make up for that difference NPD will continue to be switch> ps4> xb1.



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ironmanDX on 26 November 2017
Angelv577 said:
ironmanDX said:

Agreed. To think when this price was announced at E3, even most people in the Xbox Empire thread were questioning MS' decision. Now it's well in it's way to outpacing the Pro in the same time period for $100-150 more.

Does it really matter if the X outsell the pro? really? The ps4 pro only sell 20% of total sales.  Just selling a bit more than that won't do much past holidays because you know the xb1 s sales will go down after holidays unless they keep the 189 price permanent.  If the xb1 X doesn't make up for that difference NPD will continue to be switch> ps4> xb1.

In the whole picture of the generation, no. I don't see any problem comparing the launch period of one "premium" console to the other though.



hudsoniscool on 26 November 2017
Angelv577 said:
ironmanDX said:

Agreed. To think when this price was announced at E3, even most people in the Xbox Empire thread were questioning MS' decision. Now it's well in it's way to outpacing the Pro in the same time period for $100-150 more.

Does it really matter if the X outsell the pro? really? The ps4 pro only sell 20% of total sales.  Just selling a bit more than that won't do much past holidays because you know the xb1 s sales will go down after holidays unless they keep the 189 price permanent.  If the xb1 X doesn't make up for that difference NPD will continue to be switch> ps4> xb1.

For Xbox to win npd's in the first 10 months next year it will basically need the x to have at least 40% of all its sales which won't happen. What Xbox needs to win non holiday months is more/better games. 



Halo MCC will sell 5+ million copies(including digital)

halo 5 will sell 10 million copies(including digital)

x1 will pass ps4 in USA, and UK.

UltimateGamer1982 on 26 November 2017
CGI-Quality said:
ironmanDX said:

Based on what?

He told you.

But it is $500. It’s also well behind the S for the month too despite launching early in the month and well before the price cut. Yet the S is already up to 9 while X is around 20 on the month. And the S has been in the mid 40’s hourly ranking for some time now while still in stock. 

I’m also basing my opinion on the fact that Phil spencer himself said the vast majority of units they sell will be the S and amazon is currently reflecting that. 



ironmanDX on 26 November 2017
hudsoniscool said:
Angelv577 said:

Does it really matter if the X outsell the pro? really? The ps4 pro only sell 20% of total sales.  Just selling a bit more than that won't do much past holidays because you know the xb1 s sales will go down after holidays unless they keep the 189 price permanent.  If the xb1 X doesn't make up for that difference NPD will continue to be switch> ps4> xb1.

For Xbox to win npd's in the first 10 months next year it will basically need the x to have at least 40% of all its sales which won't happen. What Xbox needs to win non holiday months is more/better games. 

It could happen. Pro and the launch of the X have proven that there is a market for premium consoles. Also 20% of ps4 sales certainly isn't 20% of Xbox One sales.

 

Wether it will happen though? Unlikely.



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ironmanDX on 26 November 2017
UltimateGamer1982 said:
CGI-Quality said:

He told you.

But it is $500. It’s also well behind the S for the month too despite launching early in the month and well before the price cut. Yet the S is already up to 9 while X is around 20 on the month. And the S has been in the mid 40’s hourly ranking for some time now while still in stock. 

I’m also basing my opinion on the fact that Phil spencer himself said the vast majority of units they sell will be the S and amazon is currently reflecting that. 

Well, yes that's true but you were not talking about the S vs X. You were talking about the pro.



UltimateGamer1982 on 26 November 2017
ironmanDX said:
UltimateGamer1982 said:

But it is $500. It’s also well behind the S for the month too despite launching early in the month and well before the price cut. Yet the S is already up to 9 while X is around 20 on the month. And the S has been in the mid 40’s hourly ranking for some time now while still in stock. 

I’m also basing my opinion on the fact that Phil spencer himself said the vast majority of units they sell will be the S and amazon is currently reflecting that. 

Well, yes that's true but you were not talking about the S vs X. You were talking about the pro.

No I said I don’t see the X selling that much more than the pro did last year. 



UltimateGamer1982 on 26 November 2017

Basing my earlier claim off this comment from last years npd.

chromatic9
Member
01-22-2017, 02:43 PM, Post #481
Originally Posted by Jarod McChicken

Damn I lost the thread were the PS4 Pro sales were estimated for November + December, I think that was based on a 19% ratio.

Can someone confirm PS4 Pro sales were around 480K (for 2,6 million PS4) for november and december ?


For Nov/Dec 18% were Pro units so that's around 480k out of ~1.1m and ~1.568m



ironmanDX on 26 November 2017
UltimateGamer1982 said:
ironmanDX said:

Well, yes that's true but you were not talking about the S vs X. You were talking about the pro.

No I said I don’t see the X selling that much more than the pro did last year. 

I know. We both need coffee!



UltimateGamer1982 on 26 November 2017
ironmanDX said:
UltimateGamer1982 said:

No I said I don’t see the X selling that much more than the pro did last year. 

I know. We both need coffee!

You had me going for minute lol I was like, am I wording it wrong or something? Is he bad at reading? Lol