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Forums - Sales Discussion - NPD Analyst Expects Over 600,000 Xbox One X Sold this Year; PS4, Xbox One, Switch Could All Win November

 

NPD, Who wins?

Switch! 43 31.62%
 
Xbox! 20 14.71%
 
Playstation! 66 48.53%
 
Ouya! 7 5.15%
 
Total:136
Qwark on 26 November 2017
ironmanDX said:
Qwark said:

At least one in five PS4 consoles sold is a PS$ Pro if Japanese and Sony numbers are anything to go by. So I guess it must have sold at least 750k in it's first year.

Did the pro launch in November?

Found an article that claims numbers from NPD to be around 230k for December.

http://www.playstationlifestyle.net/2017/01/19/report-ps4-pro-sold-238000-units-us-last-month/

 

Do you mean 750k in it's first full year?

The pro did launch in November and you always have a few hardcore buyers. But I was thinking worldwide (probably be close to a million first year WW) and not just in the US. My US numbers for first year estimate are 450k. Mainly because you always have quite a few day one buyers. So there is a good chance XoneX trumps PS4pro in USA.  



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bananaking21 on 26 November 2017

i dont listen to any analyst but the one true analyst, micheal patcher forever may he reign



Barkley on 26 November 2017
Qwark said:
ironmanDX said:

Did the pro launch in November?

Found an article that claims numbers from NPD to be around 230k for December.

http://www.playstationlifestyle.net/2017/01/19/report-ps4-pro-sold-238000-units-us-last-month/

 

Do you mean 750k in it's first full year?

The pro did launch in November and you always have a few hardcore buyers. But I was thinking worldwide (probably be close to a million first year WW) and not just in the US. My US numbers for first year estimate are 450k. Mainly because you always have quite a few day one buyers. So there is a good chance XoneX trumps PS4pro in USA.  

That's a really low estimate. Adding up weekly sales for week ending 12th november to 31st december in the US total 2.55m, 20% of which is 510k, so that's already a fair bit above 450k.

Now as you say, you have to take launch into account so the ratio will be higher then the 20% that was given in June 2017. Also an expensive premium console may fair better in the USA compared to other markets, so above the 20% global ratio.



Qwark on 26 November 2017
Barkley said:
Qwark said:

The pro did launch in November and you always have a few hardcore buyers. But I was thinking worldwide (probably be close to a million first year WW) and not just in the US. My US numbers for first year estimate are 450k. Mainly because you always have quite a few day one buyers. So there is a good chance XoneX trumps PS4pro in USA.  

That's a really low estimate. Adding up weekly sales for week ending 12th november to 31st december in the US total 2.55m, 20% of which is 510k, so that's already a fair bit above 450k.

Now as you say, you have to take launch into account so the ratio will be higher then the 20% that was given in June 2017. Also an expensive premium console may fair better in the USA compared to other markets, so above the 20% global ratio.

Good point, but I thought the pro had severe supply issues in the US that lasted pretty long. That also explains why the Xone X is already above PS4pro on amazon yearly rankings. However in Europe stock issues where almost never a problem for the PS4 pro and I would think there is also a big market for premium consoles here. But for now I can only count the Japanese ratio for Slim/Pro and that is a bit north of 20%. But my estimate might be a bit low.



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Barkley on 26 November 2017
Qwark said:
Barkley said:

That's a really low estimate. Adding up weekly sales for week ending 12th november to 31st december in the US total 2.55m, 20% of which is 510k, so that's already a fair bit above 450k.

Now as you say, you have to take launch into account so the ratio will be higher then the 20% that was given in June 2017. Also an expensive premium console may fair better in the USA compared to other markets, so above the 20% global ratio.

Good point, but I thought the pro had severe supply issues in the US that lasted pretty long. That also explains why the Xone X is already above PS4pro on amazon yearly rankings. However in Europe stock issues where almost never a problem for the PS4 pro and I would think there is also a big market for premium consoles here. But for now I can only count the Japanese ratio for Slim/Pro and that is a bit north of 20%. But my estimate might be a bit low.

True stock issues make any attempt at using the 20% figure and reasoning that it would be higher mute. UK had stock issues also for a while. So yeah all we can really say for sure is roughly 2.83m sold globally by June 2017 when the 20% figure was given.



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Jranation on 26 November 2017
ironmanDX said:
Qwark said:

At least one in five PS4 consoles sold is a PS$ Pro if Japanese and Sony numbers are anything to go by. So I guess it must have sold at least 750k in it's first year.

Did the pro launch in November?

Found an article that claims numbers from NPD to be around 230k for December.

http://www.playstationlifestyle.net/2017/01/19/report-ps4-pro-sold-238000-units-us-last-month/

 

Do you mean 750k in it's first full year?

If true on both sides. XONEX will Stomp the pro!!!! 

*Gasp 



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Miyamotoo on 26 November 2017

Its great too see that all 3 consoles are selling great.



ironmanDX on 26 November 2017
bananaking21 said:
i dont listen to any analyst but the one true analyst, micheal patcher forever may he reign

I haven't seen a Pachter thread in a while... Wth vgchartz. Pick up your game!



jason1637 on 26 November 2017

Pro sold 480k in 2016 in the US.



Barkley on 26 November 2017
jason1637 said:
Pro sold 480k in 2016 in the US.

I'm assuming your source is this post on neogaf saying 18% of ps4's sold in nov+dec were Pro's. However the article he quotes doesn't have that information in it anywhere. the bolded is no where in the actual article.

This is what he posts: "The PlayStation 4 was the top-selling hardware system in the month and the PlayStation 4 Slim System 500GB Uncharted 4: A Thief's End Bundle was the month's top seller, driving 1.2m units of consumer sales. The PlayStation 4 Pro accounted for 18 percent of total PlayStation 4 units sold in the November-December period," noted Naji, adding, "Year-on-year there was a 10 percent increase in the number of Xbox One systems sold during December 2016."

This is what the article actually says: "The PlayStation 4 was the top-selling hardware system in the month and the PlayStation 4 Slim System 500GB Uncharted 4: A Thief's End Bundle was the month's top seller," noted Naji, adding, "Year-on-year there was a 10 percent increase in the number of Xbox One systems sold during December 2016."