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I'm very happy with my 65" Sony 900E. It was between that and the 55" OLED C7. I'm glad I went for the bigger size instead of the deepest blacks. Black level on the Sony is perfectly fine and the only times you notice the effect of local dimming instead of per pixel like on OLED is during end titles or a logo somewhere on a further black screen.

Normal PS4 looks great on it already and should allow HDR as well which is the biggest difference. Pro makes everything sharper. To what that effects you depends on how far you sit from the tv. When I play GT Sport on that I put my chair 5ft in front of the 65" to see all the details.

Anyway that tv looks awesome from SNES mini to PS4 Pro with HDR. Blu-ray looks great as well, and I have no intention to pay extra for 4K UHD discs. Those I watch comfortably from the couch 12ft away so it wouldn't make much difference.



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TruckOSaurus said:
ThisGuyFooks said:

The Sony X900E Family are some of the best TV's with gaming in mind.

What worries me the most with OLED TV's is the IR, it is VERY annoying from what i previously experienced with Plasma TV's.

I owned 2 Panasonic Mid Range Plasmas, and both of them got IR pretty easily. Never got to the point of Burn In, but i was always too distracted with the retention on the screen. 

I may buy an OLED TV in the future, but i want the IR issue to be as minimal as possible. 

By IR, do you mean when stuff like the Netflix logo somehow linger on the screen even after the movie is started?

Exactly that (but that would be extreme if that example occurred)

Not experienced any problem with gaming to be honest.  Sports channels and news channels with fixed banners are the main culprits.  But it doesn't last on the new models.

Juts takes a bit of thought and care.  

If you do get a high spec TV please take the time to set it up properly too.  Never ceases to amaze me how many people buy decent TV's and then leave them on factory standard settings, which are universally poor.

 

LG C7 or Sony A1 for me, but the A1 isn't quite as future proof (yet) and isn't great on SD content.

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kowenicki said:
TruckOSaurus said:

By IR, do you mean when stuff like the Netflix logo somehow linger on the screen even after the movie is started?

Exactly that (but that would be extreme if that example occurred)

Not experienced any problem with gaming to be honest.  Sports channels and news channels with fixed banners are the main culprits.  But it doesn't last on the new models.

Juts takes a bit of thought and care.  

If you do get a high spec TV please take the time to set it up properly too.  Never ceases to amaze me how many people buy decent TV's and then leave them on factory standard settings, which are universally poor.

 

LG C7 or Sony A1 for me, but the A1 isn't quite as future proof (yet) and isn't great on SD content.

When you game, what is the longest you have been playing before noticing some kind of Image Retention?

Or when you watch a movie with black bars, do they stay after the movie?

Im so fucking scared of IR!

My Plasmas were a nightmare, i just couldn't play videogames without the thought on my head of burn in.



ThisGuyFooks said:
kowenicki said:

Exactly that (but that would be extreme if that example occurred)

Not experienced any problem with gaming to be honest.  Sports channels and news channels with fixed banners are the main culprits.  But it doesn't last on the new models.

Juts takes a bit of thought and care.  

If you do get a high spec TV please take the time to set it up properly too.  Never ceases to amaze me how many people buy decent TV's and then leave them on factory standard settings, which are universally poor.

 

LG C7 or Sony A1 for me, but the A1 isn't quite as future proof (yet) and isn't great on SD content.

When you game, what is the longest you have been playing before noticing some kind of Image Retention?

Or when you watch a movie with black bars, do they stay after the movie?

Im so fucking scared of IR!

My Plasmas were a nightmare, i just couldn't play videogames without the thought on my head of burn in.

Not noticed black bars after movies ever.  Normal tv viewing and movies don't represent any issue whatsoever in my experience.  I think if you play more than 3 or 4 hours solid you will get IR from any static content, but IR isn't a problem.  Burn in is.  The LG has built in tools to deal with IR.  Once you see the LG in all its glory its just mind blowing.

One point, is your main room light or dark?  A very bright room is better with a top end LED probably as they are a bit brighter than OLED , best are the Samsung qled's imo.... really very good indeed.



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ThisGuyFooks said:
kowenicki said:

Exactly that (but that would be extreme if that example occurred)

Not experienced any problem with gaming to be honest.  Sports channels and news channels with fixed banners are the main culprits.  But it doesn't last on the new models.

Juts takes a bit of thought and care.  

If you do get a high spec TV please take the time to set it up properly too.  Never ceases to amaze me how many people buy decent TV's and then leave them on factory standard settings, which are universally poor.

 

LG C7 or Sony A1 for me, but the A1 isn't quite as future proof (yet) and isn't great on SD content.

When you game, what is the longest you have been playing before noticing some kind of Image Retention?

Or when you watch a movie with black bars, do they stay after the movie?

Im so fucking scared of IR!

My Plasmas were a nightmare, i just couldn't play videogames without the thought on my head of burn in.

good summary

http://www.techradar.com/news/television/tv/tr-top-10-best-tvs-for-gaming-2015-1289344

no idea why they say the e7 though, its the same panel as the c7 (or b7)



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I went with a Samsung that I love... given you plan to game on it I suggest looking up the latest table of input lags for each TV; that's actually a major reason I went with a Samsung.

Also, I'd recommend at least 50 inches as once you get under a certain size, especially if you're sitting a distance away, the visuals really aren't worth the extra cost as of yet. On a bigger screen, though, they really pop.



http://www.lg.com/us/experience-tvs/oled-tv/reliability

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I've been researching the same. I can only afford a mid range one and the one that keeps popping up is the Sony 65XE900.

OLED is way out of budget. If you're in the UK I know the Sony model I mentioned is going for £1699.

Funnily enough, RicherSounds had a deal before BF where you got the Sony 2.1 sound bar and woofer. For BF they are doing the same price without the speakers lol



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