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AlfredoTurkey said:
VAMatt said: Literally every major video game ever made - ones that were played widely enough to become culturally significant - were made, at least in part, with a goal of turning a profit.  

Hmm. Well, when you think about the art vs. money debate in video games, you really have to separate all the branches that help make it possible. As a publisher, it's almost entirely based on profits. They want to maximize their dollar as much as possible. As developers? That is totally different.

Let's think about Super Mario Bros and use it as an example. Do you think Miyamoto was only motivated by profit? Do you think he was motivated by profits at all? If you listen to his interviews then and now, it's clear that all this guy ever cared about was art and how best to convey it in video game form. His boss, on the other hand, Mr. Yamauchi, funded the project with the confidence that it would make a return on his investment. It was all about business and profit for the people who financed the games Miyamoto and his team made. 

So, really, it's not black and white. Even games like COD and Madden have a lot of people working on them that bleed for their work and do it because they just love doing it. There's a lot of cogs in this video game industry and they don't all have the same motives.

Certainly profit is not the only reason that games are made.  But, you seem to have agreed with my point.  Profit is always involved.  



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I hope more companies jump on the bandwagon of bashing loot boxes.



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VAMatt said:
AlfredoTurkey said:

Hmm. Well, when you think about the art vs. money debate in video games, you really have to separate all the branches that help make it possible. As a publisher, it's almost entirely based on profits. They want to maximize their dollar as much as possible. As developers? That is totally different.

Let's think about Super Mario Bros and use it as an example. Do you think Miyamoto was only motivated by profit? Do you think he was motivated by profits at all? If you listen to his interviews then and now, it's clear that all this guy ever cared about was art and how best to convey it in video game form. His boss, on the other hand, Mr. Yamauchi, funded the project with the confidence that it would make a return on his investment. It was all about business and profit for the people who financed the games Miyamoto and his team made. 

So, really, it's not black and white. Even games like COD and Madden have a lot of people working on them that bleed for their work and do it because they just love doing it. There's a lot of cogs in this video game industry and they don't all have the same motives.

Certainly profit is not the only reason that games are made.  But, you seem to have agreed with my point.  Profit is always involved.  

What's wrong with that though? I'm sure a successful artist would state they enjoy the money and hobby as well. Any athlete would probably say the same thing as well. LeBron James wouldn't dedicate hours to basketball if he wasn't in the NBA, but I assure you he probably would still go to his local gym several times a week and hoop.

 

Profit should only be an issue if it affects the game negatively. 



VAMatt said:
They're a for-profit company, just like EA. And, that's good. That's why they make great game.

With that said, not pissing off customers is a good way to make money. So, as a businessman, I respect them.

The problem is that pissing off a small section of your customers while fleecing the rest makes a lot more money. Never underestimate a company's thirst for money.

irstupid said:
vivster said:

I'm sick of this developer cult. All this does is breed yet another shit show that will exploit their consumer's good will.

Remember the cult around Valve and Blizzard? Yeah, one of them is now openly giving a platform to scammers and the other one is officially crowned king of loot boxes.

In this day and age nothing any developer ever says should be taken at face value.

"if we believe there's a ONE percent chance that he is our enemy we have to take it as an absolute certainty... and we have to destroy him."

I'm more of the mind that I'm not a mindless idiot and can support developers as they are good and if CDPR does shitty stuff at that time I can hate on them. For now, why should I not praise them for doing what we want?

CDPR has already become a meme as the Jesus of game developers. Praising them on occasion is fine. Praising them, and only them, all the time by a vocal mob of people is dangerous. The internet right now is plastered with praise for CDPR as a counter movement to EA and it's eclipsed the point of being healthy. It will lead to a cult following that is ready to defend every single shitty choice they will ever make, creating an echo chamber that will lead to complacency and worse. CDPR is basically the Nintendo of game developers right now.



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monocle_layton said:
VAMatt said:

Certainly profit is not the only reason that games are made.  But, you seem to have agreed with my point.  Profit is always involved.  

What's wrong with that though? I'm sure a successful artist would state they enjoy the money and hobby as well. Any athlete would probably say the same thing as well. LeBron James wouldn't dedicate hours to basketball if he wasn't in the NBA, but I assure you he probably would still go to his local gym several times a week and hoop.

 

Profit should only be an issue if it affects the game negatively. 

I don't think there is anything wrong with it.  In fact, I'm glad that people are able to make money by making games.  There'd be a whole lot fewer good games to play if games weren't profitable.  



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Will this game ever have online multiplyer?