Whilst true. You don't know if you automagically discard all viewpoints, precedents and alternatives.

What is important is healthcare research per capita as that gives you an unbiased representation.
Have you looked into that?

The fact is... I would NOT like to be sick and in the USA. - In my own country however... My healthcare is covered by a universal system, has a higher quality level of care, we have longer life expectancy, lower mortality rates and so on.
In-fact... We just had a new high-tech hostpital open up which actually has robots deliver linen, equipment, automated-labs that test for blood and so on.

So despite the fact that your healthcare system spends a catastrophic amount on R&D... Where is the benefit to the actual people? People still die younger and more often.

I think you are confident enough in yourself to be honest anyway.

There is no stealing by saying "no". You don't want your internet broken down into microtransactions.

False.
I suggest you look into the Netflix throttling debacle a few years back.

The internet providers didn't advertise the fact they were throttling... And they essentially blackmailed Netflix, customers of course suffered due to the white collar shenanigans.

Even after adjusting per capita, america STILL destroys every other nation. Not even all of Europe combined together can come close to matching US innovations in medical science ... (the US holds the most amount of clinical trials in the world for a reason) 

No other healthcare systems can work for americans since they also consume the the most amount of healthcare services too so americans pay more because they *WANT* the best available treatments possible ... (heck they don't even want treatments, they want a panacea for crying out loud) 

While the quality of care maybe lower the benefit is having leading edge options for a brighter future ... (no other nation has approved any CAR-T cell therapies while the US FDA has already approved two under trade names such as Kymriah and Yescarta) 

It's ironic how the rest of the world chides america for being so backwards yet it is america who is footing the bill for their future ... (the rest of the world wouldn't be so much of a burden if they spent as much effort as the US in medical research and we'd already have a cure for a good portion of chronic conditions) 

They said it was just a network optimization test ... (they are covered under "network management")

Can't always expect the internet to work even in the most extreme of cases plus it only affected some users in the end ... 

I think your overreacting about a maintenance issue to compared it with lootboxes ... 

Maintenance/optimization test/issue?
What? You aren't being serious right?

Netflix launched a page that basically named and shamed internet providers for offering sub-par performance.
https://qz.com/688033/netflix-launched-this-handy-speed-test-so-you-can-go-shame-your-internet-provider/

And then Netflix paid comcast extra cash.
https://qz.com/256586/the-inside-story-of-how-netflix-came-to-pay-comcast-for-internet-traffic/

And also said it will pay extra to providers:
https://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/2014/03/netflix-says-it-will-pay-tolls-to-more-isps-not-just-comcast/

Verizon continued to throttle traffic even after Netflix paid up:
https://www.extremetech.com/computing/186576-verizon-caught-throttling-netflix-traffic-even-after-its-pays-for-more-bandwidth

I think that is enough evidence to reinforce my point at any rate.

Except it doesn't.

Here the USA's expected life expectancy falls short.


Here is a chart of medical research nobel prizes per capita.


And here is your general rankings, they look extremely poor.


Child infant mortality rate is 5th highest in the developed world:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_infant_mortality_rate


You are paying more and not getting results. And why is that? Mostly because of bureaucratic waste and red tape.
https://www.nytimes.com/2017/09/27/upshot/which-country-has-the-best-health-care-system-readers-respond.html

And I quote:

Healthcare study ranks the USA last in the OECD world for healthcare:
http://www.abc.net.au/news/2017-07-17/australian-healthcare-ranked-second-best-in-developed-world/8716326

Your system is simply ineffectual, you pay more and get less.

I very much am being serious once we consider that anybody with unlimited data plans will get speed caps in specific times of day either way because there's not enough capacity in the network to begin with ... 

The internet is not an equal place and never will be because traffic and connections are not on even grounds between content providers ... (a garage startup can't match up to bigwigs like Amazon and most sites don't even get the same total bandwidth in comparison to video streaming which hogs up the vast portion of data) 

"Net neutrality" never existed ... 

Nobel prizes are skewed towards smaller countries, R&D is the better indicator since it considers ALL contributions ... 

Americans are not paying for higher quality of care or coverage, they're paying to get research results and for the best equipment/tools at their disposal ... (this shows since the US boasts the best cancer survival rates, administers the most state of the art medicine/pharmaceuticals, has the most amount of MRI scanners per capita and better end of life/terminal care) 

Sure they maybe getting less value in some measures but that also makes them more charitable in some ways since people with rare and expensive to treat diseases have a window of hope whereas a diagnosis in other nations means that it's more likely a death penalty to the unfortunate ... (If no one is willing to subsidize rare conditions then who will ?) 

People who argue that one can't put a price on life but why don't they argue the same for the amount of time that those have left ?

Thanks for the link

The difference is... That AT&T scheme will apply to ALL video on their network. The Netflix issue was just discrimination against Netflix.
Not even remotely the same.

AT&T will also be giving consumers the ability to turn off that data-saving feature as well, which was mentioned in that link you provided.

Now the other issue is your internet providers blatant false advertising.
If you advertise your internet packages as Unlimited, it damn well should be unlimited.
Australia had a similar issue to that once before where Internet connections were sold as unlimited... But actually had caps which then introduced throttling once a limit was reached. - The Government of course stepped in and applied some new industry regulation to resolve that issue.
See here: https://www.accc.gov.au/media-release/optus-unlimited-advertisements-declared-misleading-and-deceptive

Your Government is slow to act and should take the same course of action against providers who are also falsely advertising packages.

There are no excuses, it's anti-consumer.

Stop the unlimited internet lies... Don't introduce Micro-transactions for Internet connections... And your telecommunications industry would be far better off... Especially for consumers.

The USA also has high cancer rates to begin with.. And some cancers your country actually falls short. - You do know that a prevention is better than a cure right? An amazing health system is one that educates people on that very fact.

Here you fall behind my country in Colorectal cancer 5-year survival rates:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_quality_of_healthcare

You are of course slightly ahead in breast cancer and lschemic Stroke,  but are absolutely terrible in cervical cancer survival rates... Do poorer in heart attack and Hemorrhagic stroke.
Not seeing this "superiority" in your health system.

Majority of measures you fall short. Not just "some".

As for charitable... We have a universal healthcare system, it's also a hybrid system, where those over a certain tax threshold can either pay for private insurance... Or pay more in tax to contribute to our healthcare system.... But it also means that everyone is covered, Homeless, mentally ill, veteran... Everyone, regardless of how much you do/don't earn. That is charitable.
And it works, the statistics don't lie... And even after all the evidence I have provided... If you continue to disagree with it, then there really is no point in continuing this discussion.

I mean. We even have more beds per-capita.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_OECD_countries_by_hospital_beds
And higher life expectancy.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_life_expectancy

You can't make this stuff up. Your system is expensive, over priced and under delivers.

Ofcourse you look at other countries and what they do, that is exactly what every country does all the time, including the US =). Why do you otherwise think that you have public schools, public transportation, publically funded police and fire department, a governmental system with inspiration from Europe? You can´t possibly be so naive as to think those ideas formed out of a bubble with no influence from other nations? The same goes with net neutrality: ISP´s in the US will ofcourse look at how ISP´s in other nations have been succesful at monetizing the lack of net neutrality and therefore you need to also look at how other countries does it.

And the example with healthcare, seriously... Medicare and Medicade was formed as an inspiration from how the UK finance its public healthcare.

Makes sense once we consider that video streaming takes up 70% of the entire internet's traffic ... 

Throttling bandwidth is a reality with unlimited data plans ... (ISPs only advertise unlimited data, not unlimited connection bandwidth) 

Again, no such thing as net neutrality in our modern world. I don't see it as a politics problem anymore but as an engineering problem ... 

I do realize that prevention is the best method to healthcare and I highly advocate it for it's high cost savings efficiency but only 40% of the cancers can be considered preventable ... 

In the vast majority of cancers, the US manages to come out on top ... 

Treatments in CAR-T cell therapies will also keep america in the lead as we take our first step in having a reliable solution to blood cancers ... (no country can come close to the innovations that the US has made in medical science and it will continue in the foreseeable future until their policy or demographics changes) 

"Under deliver" is a matter of perspective and most americans are content with the current healthcare system. It's as you said, "it's not broken, no need to fix it" since nearly 2/3 of the population are fine with it ...  

Here, I thought that being charitable meant attaining equity but I guess those with rare cancers will have to fend for themselves since the rest of the world is not up to the task of offering any higher quality of life ... 

Yes, the statistics don't lie but don't just contend that a few specific systems being omnipotent against another when that is not the case since the majority of nationalized healthcare systems fall behind in cancer research, the creation of new molecular entities (the US ALONE creates over 40% of the NMEs) or poorer palliative care since most national programs don't think it's worth covering drugs such as Avastin, Sutent, Yervoy and Provenge to extend the life of terminally ill patients for a few months if it means saving lots of money in the end since the patients have poor short term prognosis either way ... (Not even the likes of Australia is impervious to this since they don't want to cover a good portion of expensive cancer drugs)

Yeap, the US healthcare system is definitely not charitable. In fact it's so heartless that it's the only country with decent end of life care, oops ... 

@Bold LOL, are serious ? The US is one of the very few oldest federal republics that has attained universal suffrage so how much can that be said of other countries who still have either a monarchy or doesn't have any sort of suffrage ? 

FYI, copying what other countries are doing isn't possible in a lot of cases ... (US uses more high end drugs than any other nation so getting the same cost benefits isn't possible) 

Reaching the same per capita GDP as Qatar is nearly impossible since it's the second largest exporter of natural gas ... 

Angry Joe made a video about it:

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=kwjCbK2X07k

Cheers