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XBOX down at number 8 on the list, I guess it's because of that system launching so late in the year it hasn't had the ability to shine and show what it's capable of, but I'm sure Microsoft would like to see their new €500 console higher on tech lists coming into Christmas.

As for the Switch, I mean, if I look at my play data I've played it for on average 2 hours every day since launch... that's pretty scary in ways, but it's such a great little device.



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reviniente said:
McDonaldsGuy said:

What do you mean?

I mean, there was nothing wrong with the Wii U. It was an excellent system, but it failed to create hype and most casuals (the drones that bought 100mil Wii's ) would've needed to be goaded into buying it, by the press or the internet or whomever. Without said hype, the mob skipped it, and a great system faded into nothingness.

The Wii was my favorite console of that generation, but the Wii U was such a disappointment. I even called it out for not appealing to anyone right before it was released. I knew right away the Wii U would be Nintendo's worst console.

There were so many problems with it right away:

- No new franchises (Splatoon wouldn't come out til year 3)

- Games were underwhelming such as Super Mario 3D World (when the Wii U needed a hit, they gave us this? WTF?), Donkey Kong Country: Tropical Freeze, and many, many more

- It didn't know what it wanted to be

- The tablet controller was useless and expensive. I don't even know why it was included????

- It had virtually no games and no third party support. Heck it didn't even get a Zelda game really

- The online was still crap and Nintendo shunned it (no online for 3D World for example)

- The marketing was terrible

The Switch is great so far though (except for charging online). This is what should've been released in 2012.



McDonaldsGuy said:
reviniente said:

I mean, there was nothing wrong with the Wii U. It was an excellent system, but it failed to create hype and most casuals (the drones that bought 100mil Wii's ) would've needed to be goaded into buying it, by the press or the internet or whomever. Without said hype, the mob skipped it, and a great system faded into nothingness.

The Wii was my favorite console of that generation, but the Wii U was such a disappointment. I even called it out for not appealing to anyone right before it was released. I knew right away the Wii U would be Nintendo's worst console.

There were so many problems with it right away:

- No new franchises (Splatoon wouldn't come out til year 3)

- Games were underwhelming such as Super Mario 3D World (when the Wii U needed a hit, they gave us this? WTF?), Donkey Kong Country: Tropical Freeze, and many, many more

- It didn't know what it wanted to be

- The tablet controller was useless and expensive. I don't even know why it was included????

- It had virtually no games and no third party support. Heck it didn't even get a Zelda game really

- The online was still crap and Nintendo shunned it (no online for 3D World for example)

- The marketing was terrible

The Switch is great so far though (except for charging online). This is what should've been released in 2012.

I rest my case.



reviniente said:

I rest my case.

It's marketing was terrible though because it appealed to no one.

The Wii U was underpowered and overpriced. $350 for Xbox 360 hardware. That was one of the biggest problems - it didn't appeal to core gamers because it was too weak and the games were underwhelming, but it didn't appeal to casual gamers because it was too expensive and the tablet was overwhelming to them.

The Switch IMO is the opposite of the Wii U. It appeals to people; had some great games the first year; and has been marketed correctly.

We'll just remember the Wii U as a dark chapter in Nintendo's history lol (think Virtua Boy). And this is coming from someone who thought the Wii was the best console of its generation!



NintendoPie said:
reviniente said:

I mean, there was nothing wrong with the Wii U. It was an excellent system, but it failed to create hype and most casuals (the drones that bought 100mil Wii's ) would've needed to be goaded into buying it, by the press or the internet or whomever. Without said hype, the mob skipped it, and a great system faded into nothingness.

Not to turn this thread into one about how terrible the Wii U, but the Wii U was terrible. The "casuals" weren't the only ones that had to be goaded into buying that mess, as can be seen by its horrendous sales.

Anyway, yay for Switch and all that.

Ya im a pretty huge Nintendo fan and it took me a year and a half before i bought a Wii U because it really didnt appeal to me. I actually bought a PS3 on black friday like a week after Wii U released.

With Switch i preordered it and bought it day 1.



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reviniente said:
NightDragon83 said:

Nah.  Nobody outside of diehard Nintendo fans wanted to spend $300 on a Wii HD with a touch screen controller that was barely as powerful as consoles much older and cheaper at the time of release.  And it only got worse for the Wii U after the launch of other next gen consoles the following year, which blew it out of the water in terms of hardware and could be had for a mere $100 more at launch in the PS4's case.

Had the original Wii been more powerful / HD capable out of the gate and sold at the same price the 360 launched at ($299 for base model), it still would've been a massive success with even better 3rd party support.  The Wii U was always a stop-gap console that tried to appeal to everyone but failed on almost every level.

I give you the Switch.

Apples to oranges.

1)  You can't take the Wii U gamepad with you and play every game in your library, both physical and digital, on the go.  The Wii U was also marketed as an extension of the Wii line and even used the same Wiimote + nunchuk controllers, while the Switch offers its own unique controller setup that allows for instant multiplayer at home or on the go.

2)  The Switch is a clear step up from the PS360 generation in terms of horsepower.  Wii U can't run current-gen games like Doom 2016 or Wolfenstein 2, at least not without far more significant reductions in visual fidelity and performance as compared to the Switch (assuming developers can even get the games to run at all), and the Wii U also had piss-poor 3rd party support which consisted mostly of lazy ports whereas 3rd parties are lining up to support the Switch with full fledged versions of their games.



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You know I was always wondering why no one ever used the dollar sign for $ony, but then I realized they have no money so it would be pointless.

AlfredoTurkey said:
It's not a big deal but beating the iPhone on any list is impressive considering it's 2017 and according to Patcher, consoles are dead.

This is a great point.

This is the biggest "Ha Ha" moment for Pachter and his silly predictions.



More good news for Nintendo.



Strong sales
Solid game library with promising future line up
Solid mobile performance
Device that is heavily appealing
Stocks highest since the Wii's best performing year (2008)
EA getting a kicking (not Nintendo related but good in any context and any topic)

Doomed.