I think the "Blue Ocean" approach, er, thing that Nintendo was doing has been fully usurped by Mobile and Browser Games.

Hopefully the emphasis on indie titles continues as I see much of that "Blue Ocean" crowd is drawn to ideas present in indie games.

My girlfriend for one has become obsessed with Stardew Valley. Shes played that over 200 hours already. Last game she played before that was fricking Bingo Blitz.

It's a new broader ocean baby!

Your idea of 'casuals' is nonsense and not equivalent to 'blue ocean' at all.

1) Casuals would be people who rarely play games at all. It is not defined by the type of game such as Wii Sports etc. I would argue that there are plenty of casuals who only buy / play games like Madden or COD. They one 1-3 games at most and only play one or two of those on a casual basis. While any core gamer would be those that buy several games and spend time almost daily on their games.

2) Blue Ocean is about finding a market that is not filled with competition. Wii did that with not only people who hadn't played games in a very long time, but also with new types of games focused on a new way to play games.

Switch has hit a new blue ocean. One where a core gamer can play high-end games anywhere. Switch appeals greatly to long-time Nintendo fans (where WiiU even failed) with high-quality software and to those gamers who also want to play FIFA on the go. The bonus is the normally portable gamers who get the best possible (to-date) console with portability ever.

I think what your data shows is that the smaller party-game style of gameplay is no longer popular. At least not in a $300+ console with a control-scheme that is "too complicated" for the crowd that was pulled back into gaming with the Wii. Let's call them the "retired gamer crowd".

I hope Nintendo is really getting back to a gamer focus, instead of the casual focus they had for 10 years.

I am not saying this source is more accurate. You asked me where I got my information and since you provided a source, I felt it was correct of me to show you that I was not making my numbers up as well. As I said, I am not going to argue your numbers because you provided what I asked and I am a fair man about things.

As far as my opinion on attach rates, I do not have one. I just used the information I Googled and left it at that. At no point did I imply my numbers were superior; as a matter of fact, since the beginning I have said if you provided information that I would back off. And I did.

Lastly, why would I deny PS2 numbers? I have never Googled them and I have no information about that console.

You weren't saying it was plausible, you were more on that was the expected outcome. But please entretain us on how the price would basically be the same perfomance too on a hybrid or table console.

PC gaming is actually growing instead of dying off. So even though it may have dropped hard it wasn't and isn't being replaced.

Sorry, my miss interpretation. Thanks for the source.

I don't see how the Switch is not casual friendly. The fact that it comes with two, self-contained Wii Remote-esque controllers for multiplayer that can be used anywhere screams casual friendly alone. Not only that, but Nintendo launched the Switch with a face-to-face party game, and a co-op puzzler where players cut each-other into shapes. Next year, they're rolling out with new Kirby and Yoshi games, two of their most causal friendly IP in their roster. Not to mention, the Switch was the #1 platform for Just Dance 2018 (I know it's Ubisoft, but still). 

It's true the Switch has appeal to core gamers as well, but let's not pretend it wasn't designed with casual gamers in mind. 

That's just an excuse ... (3 of Switch's biggest blockbusters aren't even keeping up with the current hardware sales attach rates anymore) 

If people are going to liken the similarities between the Switch and Wii/DS then a meaningful comparison of the legs of each library should be compared as well ... 

All of Nintendo's games released so far on the Switch are on track sell 70% of it's lifetime units within the given 18 month window if NPD rankings are to be believed ... (3 of which are currently getting beaten by a 4 year old GTA V as we speak so you can already tell that Switch's games aren't going to match the legs of either Wii/DS counterparts if their short term performance isn't good) 

For the PS2 I think there was an announcement for 1.5B SW and over 150M HW, but I can't find the link anymore..  Sources for HW numbers are inconsistent (even from Sony), with one source saying one number, while another Sony source will say a different number for the same time period.  So the 155M HW is a guesstimate and not official, but it should be in that ballpark.   

For the PS3 SW the link is here. - http://scei.co.jp/corporate/data/bizdataps3soft_sale_e.html

For the PS3 HW the link is here. - http://scei.co.jp/corporate/data/bizdataps3_sale_e.html

The links have been erased by Sony so you have to use "Web Archive" to access them.

The Nintendo numbers are given here. - https://www.nintendo.co.jp/ir/en/finance/hard_soft/

If the PS3 HW decreased at a faster rate than the PS3 SW decrease, than the attach rate may be higher in the end.

But we would still need solid numbers to know for sure either way and these official numbers give us a good idea of the PS3 attach rate in its prime.

No anyone who can read can discern I was saying it's plausible.

"I agree with what he said in that in future its possible all platforms used the hybrid form factor."

Unless you don't understand the word possible don't make up untrue replies, want to know how the price can be be lowered look up progression in tech and how fast it's happening we have a portable device now that's playing HD games of the likes of Skyrim and respectable ports from the likes of the PS4 and X1 something which a generation ago was not even seen as possible. The Switch doesn't even use the latest Tegra based tech and architecture either.

As new tech comes along old tech becomes cheaper because and faster progression makes this happens at a more rapid rate this is one reason PC gaming is doing as well as it is because mid to higher end PCs can be built for much cheaper then what they could have been years ago.

I don't think going after so-called "casual gamers" is a bad thing. So long as Nintendo doesn't alienate its current userbase. I don't see why, in any given year, Nintendo can't release games for both "sets" of gamers. I think a wii sports type title could only be a good thing if it brought in new consumers. (Even though i don't think Wii Sports was necessarily a "Casual" title, it was for everyone.)