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mZuzek said:
Hiku said:

They say age is relevant for success. Not 'prevents' success.
Reaction time tends to go down in your 30's as opposed to when you were a teenager, etc. That doesn't mean you can't still be successful. Daigo Umehara for example is still a top Street Fighter player even though he's 36.

That said, reaction time is probably less important for fighting games than for shooters.

In some cases, but not others.  In games like Tekken and Smash 4, it doesn't matter as much as a shooter; Tekken is more about timing and Smash 4 is more about outsmarting.  But something like Melee is pretty much all reaction time while on stage.  



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AlfredoTurkey said:
Hiku said:

They say age is relevant for success. Not 'prevents' success.
Reaction time tends to go down in your 30's as opposed to when you were a teenager, etc. That doesn't mean you can't still be successful. Daigo Umehara for example is still a top Street Fighter player even though he's 36.

I've been arguing everything you've just said for years now to no avail. No one seems to listen even though studies haven shown that aging doesn't prevent success in gaming. I feel like I'm arguing the world round in a world of flat earthers.

It doesn't prevent success, but it makes it more challenging. It's part of life that as you age, your reaction time diminuishes a little bit at a time. Not in such a way that you would notice it every few months, but enough that in the span of several years it's absolutely measurable.

 

In my 20's I was competing at very high level (nations cup level) in a specific FPS. There's no way I would be able to do it nowadays, even if I would be at least top 1% in any FPS game you would throw. By the time I'll be 50 probably it would be hard to remain top 5%.

 

That would be more noticeable in twitch based FPS and less so in more tactical (battle sense) dependent ones.



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it kinda makes sense I guess. I have noticed a general trend with people. It also depends on genre. For instance, I have never met a person I considered to be a tad slow that liked RPGs or Strategy games, but I have met some slow gamers who were really into Madden, NBA2K, and Halo.



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AlfredoTurkey said:

If age was that important, I wouldn't have such a high KD ratio in COD and Halo (I'm 38).

Because 38 is such an old age lol



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SegataSanshiro said:

Except IQ doesn't exist. https://www.digitaltrends.com/cool-tech/now-scientists-want-to-tell-you-that-iq-doesnt-exist/

I've been saying it since 1992. 2012 confirmed it. I have known some pretty dumb people who were pretty good at Halo.

LOL. IQ is just a number, measured in a defined procedure. Whether or not it has any meaning is up to scientific discussion, although a majority of scientists see a meaning, but still they differ in how much and what it actually says.

SegataSanshiro said:
VGPolyglot said:

IQ exists, whether or not it's an accurate measure is another question.

IQ is false. It's BS. Doesn't exist. It's a myth.  I can't be both clinically retarded and have the IQ of 150 at the same time. I have scored both. My tests alone growing up proved to be the sham it is. You can't measure intelligence. It's just not possible. Too many variables and types of intelligence that it can't be measured in a type of scale. A person can be the most intelligent and smart at a few specific things but very vapid in subjects some average people excel over him/her. There is no such thing as having a unified intelligence that can be summed up with a number. You can excel at some things and be average or dumb in others. No one is intelligent at everything but the IQ score pretends it can. 

As I said above, just a number. The two things are not exclusive.

I personally have a extraordinary high IQ and I am member of Mensa, but I'm very critical of how much meaning this actually has. Mensa itself defines their organization of just a club of people with high IQ, whatever that means.

I'm not sure if intelligence can or can't be measured, but I see many flaws in the IQ approach.

The general intelligence is also thing of scientific speculation, see here:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/G_factor_(psychometrics)

Generally there is not a stable consensus that it exists, but a small majority sees it that way. So it is still in open discussion.

And to excel at one thing and be dumb at others: I also see that intelligent people are not immune to emotions, biases or prejudice. All these things avoid thinking at all about some stuff, resulting in that a potential intelligence is never applied. So with these things the intelligent person can act the same as a stupid one on certain things. Intelligence only makes a difference if the person thinks about it.

Nevertheless, I posted that thread only for fun in the community, not to have any deeper meaning.

Funny enough, the article you posted show the same correlation to gaming:

"the study discovered that smoking decreases verbal ability and short-term memory, but that playing video games apparently improves gamers’ reasoning and short-term memory."

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m0ney said:
AlfredoTurkey said:

If age was that important, I wouldn't have such a high KD ratio in COD and Halo (I'm 38).

Because 38 is such an old age lol

Apparently, I shouldn't be able to even MOVE while playing COD. lol



I dunno this feels like it has some of the hallmarks of a clickbait article xD even if that wasn't the intent of the paper's authors at all. Maybe because of the way it comes across without the greater context of the study (e.g. possibly finding ways to design educational curricula to be more effective with the inclusion of video games as a medium?) makes it feel that way. A small slice of information garnered from a bigger picture can always be polarizing, if it's presented in the right way. Saw another academic article causing controversy in a similar way jusy earlier today.



AlfredoTurkey said:
Mnementh said:

A recent study found some links between intelligence and results in video games. Intelligence has more influence on the success in MOBAs than in a shooter though. Age is relevant for success in a shooter game, as reaction tends to reduce.

Oh here we go with the age thing again. If age was that important, I wouldn't have such a high KD ratio in COD and Halo (I'm 38). As for intelligence, I could see that actually having an impact due to problem solving etc. 

Dude, are you serious.....? You are 38 and thats your reply. Exceptions to a consistent outcome do not disprove factors that generally produce certain results. Studies have found links between drinking alcohol and impaired driving, so by your logic, if you take 6 shots and make it home in what seems to be an unimpaired drive you just disprove that whole study, give me a break.

 

Let me guess, you just wanted to subtle brag about your sick COD skills.