Nah, you meant it to rouse Nintendo fans. No denying. Language barrier is a bad excuse if the OP is in good enough english but the content is the one that draws attention. You seeked the attention and probably wanted to antagonize one or another.

Thats why the cherry picked arguments. As I showed in my previous post, for each argument can be made a completely different statement.

AngryLittleAlchemist said: Hive mind mentality gangs up on innocent man Sounds like a Porn title

Tbh it's very clickbaity and the 'PLEASE VOTE AND COMMENT' only adds insult to injury.

I don't expect threads to be written with a PHd in gaming, but come on. It's another shitty thread that uses strawmen to regurgitate points barely anyone (excluding the minority) say.

I'm sure the 3 hour battery life will improve with a later revision. It's one part of the Switch specification that likely will improve next year. The 20nm fabrication process is already old and they may actually be forced to a superior fabrication process because of lack of 20nm manufacturing capacity and pricing.

I think the fact that it's a hybrid in the truest of senses is throwing both sides of the argument off. Nvidia's Tegra line, and now Volta have the guts of what it takes to be a "console" but it can also be mobile. The Tegra isn't as powerful as PS4 and Xbone sure, but the fact that it is running games on those consoles is amazing. And the tech will only improve, but I'm getting sidetracked here.

The bottom lines are:

1.) Whoever responded to that first question is a dunce. 3 hours is not good for a console because console's don't have battery lives. They are supposedly supposed to be plugged in at all times. 3 hours for a portable device that can run modern game titles is a damn amazing feat

2.) A game like doom running on a device that's multiple times smaller than a PS4/Xbox One or PC is fucking amazing and it is a look at the future of gaming. (Something I've said since the Switch reveal)

3.) Yes, the PS1 outsold the 64, the PS2 outsold the Gamecube, and the PS4 outsold the Wii U. But again, because this is a hybrid it isn't necessarily only a console. It has DNA of both and Software of both. So we could just as easily say the DS outsold the PSP, and 3DS outsold the PSVita. And uh...where was this even supposed to go again?

The narrative isn't really being changed as much as it is being misinterpreted and misunderstood. We're confused because it is both and you're trying to find an avenue that works to fit your argument but there really is no appropriate way to "win" the argument because Switch is nor handheld or console in terms of hardware, software, and form factor. It's just a fucking mess of a topic. And not your topic specifically but the general idea of it all.

As many others have said, Nintendo has been put through hell and back, and they're finally finding footing with Switch. I really see no way to spin the console in a negative way given its attributes and offerings. Other than crappy online.

The reason this argument comes up is because Nintendo haters desperately want it to seem like Nintendo is out of the home console market (even though Nintendo has been clear), thus discounting the success of the Switch and downplaying it's current state as a legitimate competitor of the PS4 and Xbox. The truth is, Nintendo has made a hybrid system. The marketing has been very clear about it. They have captured a new corner in the market by combining both, and have been very successful despite the DOA argumentation. A silly Doom port argument isn't going to change any of that.

When Switch is used as a home console, it's battery life is infinite as long as you have electricity coming out of your wall socket. As for the Sony selling more home consoles... Nintendo has won three console generations and Sony had won three console generations, so that argument always falls flat no matter what.

Im back guys, i dont know why some of you are being so defensive about it.

The examples i gave at the beginning of the OP (Battery and Doom) were just that, examples.

My favorite reply of this thread is from Slarvax.

Rol, with all due respect.

You have almost Sixty Thousand comments on this site.

You know which group falls into my description.

Switch is a handheld with a TV out dock, nothing more, nothing less.

Does it make it worse to be just a handheld?, No not at all, does it make it any better to be both? Not at all either, but the reality is that it is simply a handheld with a TV out dock, the only reason the console has two performance profiles is because the built in screen and battery aren't good enough to run the thing at full power unless connected to the mains and a display with a higher resolution.

Because your examples are nonsense that pratically nobody has used.

People have defended battery life but not for the reason you gave, they have defended it because 3-5 hours is all that anyone should expect out of a modern portable device playing high performance games. 3DS, Vita, smartphones & tablets all have a similar battery life to Switch when playing demanding games.

Regardless of handheld or console, Switch is a fraction of the size and has a fraction of the power of a PS4/XBO. Nobody should expect similar performance on Switch for a game like Doom. Most people were surprised that it even got ported to Switch and the fact that it actually runs pretty well is impressive.

Most people dont consider Switch exclusively a home console or a handheld. The majority of people see it for what it is, a hybrid device that acts as both so nobody should be making illogical comparisons such as "PS home consoles vs Nintendo home consoles" to draw concusions.

People are getting defensive because you are generalizing an entire fanbase and your examples are stupid.